Storm damage on Duchesse de Brabant
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Comments (47)With 35 reports thus far, here are the results. I did not ask about some suggested key identifiers, which are shown in bold. If you can confirm their existence on your Duchesse de Brabant, it would be interesting. I don't yet have a confirmed petal shape. If anyone has any leftover petals, flatten a typical petal under a book and describe the shape. I suspect that these are typically cuneate (wedge-shaped). Leaves open wrinkled and then smooth as they mature. Leaf margins are slightly wavy. Leaf texture is thin. Powdery mildew in coastal and central valley of California and in damp spring. Prickles beneath on petiole (mid-rib of leaf). Prickles on canes are scattered. Bloom form is globular (fewer petals) to cupped (more petals). Stamen: filaments are white to cream, anthers dark amber when fresh. Petal color is medium pink with cream to white centers, probably cuneate (wedge-shaped). Petals count: median 54 total, with range from 86-21. For those with a hand lens, the sepal margins are glandular ciliate. More than half report strong/fruity Tea fragrance. Some cannot detect Tea or did not report. Plants often grow to 8 ft. x 8 ft. Feel free to confirm this description or distinguish your plants if you haven't already described each of these characteristics. I would like to report these results to Billy West, one of the Teabags from Oz....See MoreTwo colored Duchesse de Brabant!
Comments (19)Even if you decide to air layer, I would still try to root a few cuttings. You can use a styrofoam cup with holes punched in the bottom, but I'm using some really small clay pots now (they don't blow over). I purchased the Jiffy brand seed starting mix to root mine in. I take a fresh cutting, pencil thickness if you have it, nick the outer skin near the base of the cutting, dip it in some rooting hormone, and place it in a hole that you form with a pencil, firm it up with your fingers, and keep moistened. There are several articles on the ARS website on how to root roses. Everyone has a favorite method that works well for them. It's fun. Personally, I don't have much luck with the baggie method, they rot on me. I root mine in full morning sun, late afternoon shade, and mist them several times a day with my garden hose turned to the mist setting. Eventually, we'll set up some automatic misting heads to an irrigation zone. I am having a fairly high success rate, and I am a brand new newbie at rooting. It can take 4 to 6 weeks before they root. It's been thrilling watching the first ones I rooted bloom. Sandy...See MoreDuchesse de Brabant
Comments (9)I'm ready to strangle my DdB which has been an underperformer for most of her three years despite all the water, fertilizer and frustration. She does not like me and her neighbor, Mme. Schwartz, who used to like me, sulks right along with her. If you can grow the small Bourbons (since I can they should do well for you) I can recommend Leveson-Gower or, even better, the beautiful Mme. Dore, which should fulfill all your criteria. Potter and Moore is also gorgeous, if you can find it, especially good when on its own roots (supposedly stays smaller and blooms more than the grafted). Ditto for Chaucer. I've heard nothing but praise for Young Lycidas, but don't know about its eventual size. Harlow Carr is beautiful and might do well for you since you don't seem to live in a heat trap like mine. Pretty Jessica stays small, is perfumed, and seems to have no faults. I love my La France, small, beautiful flowers and lovely perfume. Belinda's Dream gets to be a very big girl so would probably not be suitable anyway, if that's any consolation for not being able to obtain an otherwise lovely rose. Good luck Daisy! Ingrid...See MoreDuchess de Brabant and perle d or
Comments (13)Hmm, maybe your PdO does have windburn/sunburn with some canker thrown in. I just don’t think it would be cold damage on that one. Having the perfect height and wafting scent, PdO would be a beautiful rose for either side of a gate. I put crape myrtles on either side of our pasture gate years ago, and now REALLY wish I had gone with fragrant roses instead…but once you have an established crape myrtle, you have it for life…not easy to move or kill. Would be a shame to move your PdO, but it doesn’t look happy. You have one on the other side that has the same type cane damage? Maybe pot them up for this year in a more protected spot to see if they recover. You could then move the pots back to either side of the gate next year to see how they do before replanting. That would give you an idea of whether it is the location PdO doesn’t like or if yours were just weaklings that needed some extra care at first. Hard to tell from the picture, but your DdB doesn’t look too bad to me…small, but still a good bit of healthy cane once you prune off the bad? My DdB seems to be more cold tender than most of my other teas and slower to recover from it. Mine really shot up last year, though, after barely growing at all the year before and starting last season off as a one foot stick. If yours is healthy, you may want to give it another season there to see what it does....See MoreBuford_NE_GA_7A
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