Miele Coffee Machine Owners - What brand coffee do you use?
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Comments (44)"claimed that it came with a manufacturers warranty" sellers can claim anything. it's called a manufacturer's warranty , and the contract is with the manufacturer - a third party cannot alter the contract without the manuf. written consent which will never happen. storm - let me try and clarify the winds for you. I don't think moja's problem quite meets the vote the free market I was/am talking about. He should not have bought a product from Miele in the first place. By telling people about this he brings the debate forward and can shape the market if he convinces enough people to to not buy Miele gear because they do this or that. Look at the aforementioned Maytag. They used to make superior washers, and no they don't really exist anymore. Enough people vote with their wallets by nit buying their washers because they turned to crap. Re: the Gaggenau / Miele fatherland thing. Gaggenau is highline- high quality - high price everywhere. Miele USA is really a different business than Miele Germany and what I'm saying is they have chosen to position themselves here as ONLY a high quality make. They don't import even half of their offerings to this market, and like I've mentioned to dodge before they are not simply putting a NA plug on their units, shipping them here and jacking up the price over the German/Euro markets. If a product is available both places the prices are very similar after currency variables are considered. Miele simply doesn't offer mid to entry products here. Because they offer a more broad range in Europe their rep. is slightly lower simply because of exclusivity. Benz does the same thing here. You couldn't get a SMART here until they figured out how to distance that brand from MBenz so as not to dilute the mark. They did the same thing with their vans via Freightliner and Dodge. I take exception at your assertion that I bow to the marketing chants or the winds of corp. top floors. I make no bones about being a Miele fan. But I also rec. lots of other makes. It's all dependent on the customer's need/wants. What I really have a problem with is what's moja's complaining about: I tried to save a few bucks by not buying through an authorized distribution channel and now the manuf. won't help me free of charge. The (my) problem is not that he's complaining per se, but that he seems to feel he has no responsibility in this and that it's totally Miele's fault because they are bad or that the system is bad because big government has allowed companies to set prices for their own products and say where they are sold by upholding a decades old practice. My problem with him over the health care thing is his math. Sure an office visit for the flu is cheaper in Canada than walking into the ER here in the USA. No one will rally debate this. ER's are set up for trauma and critical care and that care is very expensive to deliver. My tummy hurts or I have a cough don't really qualify but the public doesn't really feel like waiting because they are soft and or lazy. I saw it in the UK as I worked in an ER for 8 months. Care was no cost out of pocket and people would still come to the ER for sore knees, headaches, whatever instead of making an appointment with their family doctor which was also no cost, simply because they's have to wait several weeks to see him. They wait at the ER too sometimes a whole day while serious stuff like guys that got shot with a nail gun, or wrecked a motorcycle, or broke they arm playing soccer were attended to. Anyway the overall total cost of socialized system is more than a private one and the numbers bear that out. Oh and the CDC doesn't really keep that info, or didn't . It's not in their pervue. If they do now, please point me to the hard data....See MoreWhere do you buy Miele DW Salts & what detergent do you use?
Comments (14)The tabs really do a great job (there are some older threads with loads of posts singing their praises!). We used Cascade Complete initially, but Miele came out with the tabs sometime around when we first started using our DW. A bunch of GW'ers tried them and kept raving about them so we decided to give them a try. The CC worked perfectly fine and everything came out spotless. However, the tabs seem to give the loads an extra level of clean and sparkle. Also, the air in the DW just had a fresher quality (odor) after running a load with the tab vs CC. The DW after a CC cleaned load isn't bad, just less fresh smelling. FWIW, some on this forum use 1/2 a tab (and possibly even 1/4 tab?) to clean most loads. Again, my stuff comes out fine with a 1/2 tab, but a full tab just seems to raise that sparkle and clean to another level. It's not overly noticeable, in fact, I thought it was my mind playing tricks on me, but some others here have said the same thing. We don't usually run our DW every day, so I like the sense of security (that everything will get clean) that using a full tab gives. Last night I had a pretty empty DW, but one of those few items was a stinky plastic food container that would have been quite foul smelling by morning let alone this evening, so I ran the DW before bed instead of waiting, with a 1/2 tab and everything came out great. PS there were some posters who had trouble with grit (undisolved soap powder) build up in their rack glides from using Ecover so you might want to do a search for those threads discussing that....See MoreMiele owners - which brand of stainless cleaner do you use?
Comments (20)You could try some acetone. But I think its going to take more of an effort. The nice thing about oven cleaner is that it saponifies the oils making them water soluble. Literally turning them into soap. I use to work for a large metal fabricator. We would would bring in rolled SS and run it through a bath of sodium hydroxide(lye) to clean it. It works beautifully. SS is not maintenance-free as many people believe it is. It tarnishes just like any other metal but slower. Oil-based "cleaners" do two things 1. they cover up fingerprints and 2. they slow down oxidation. But if you really want to maintain a brighter SS you must use an acid to clean it. It is just like polishing silver. The problem is you can't use an acid if the is a coating of oil on the metal. That is one of the causes of streaking. So in summary. Once you strip the oil off with an alkaline based cleaner then you can use the alcohol for everyday cleaning. Every once in a while, use a weak acid to remove the tarnish. Even vinegar might work if you do it frequently. I do not. So I resort to barkeepers. Which is a stronger acid. If it is good quality SS there should be no problem Kitchen grease is very tenacious. Unless you clean everyday, standard soap water is simply not strong enough. Although you could try some laundry detergent and VERY hot water. That might remove the oils. BTW if there is any printing on the surface of the metal DO NOT use acetone or Barkeepers. It will strip it right off. The key is not to start with Oil based "cleaners". There is enough oil floating around your kitchen already. There is no need to add insult to injury. Kind of makes you want to go back to the old glass front ovens and vinyl refrigerators. :) Sorry for the length!...See MoreMiele combi oven/coffee machine combo
Comments (5)Ok, so I took 3 pictures with everything :) This is the overall look (with the space between appliances almost equal): And here are two close-ups with the top of the coffee machine and the bottom: As you can see, the shelf between the coffee machine and microwave is only partially visibile. The same shelf would be fully visible if it would be between the coffee machine and oven....See Moredivotdiva2
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