I just ordered Wallerton Old Hall and a few others from DA. There is a 15% coupon code for DA: ULA.

Chris, It should bloom for you this year in zone 8a if you ordered a gal size. Sometimes a small rose (band size) won't bloom the 1st year, I have that happened in the past in zone 6a. Zone 8 is a good place for roses compare to here. You can also grow a lot of beautiful fragrant tea roses which I only can grow them in pots here......and check out David Austin roses, your wife might like them too. :-)

Roses Unlimited has Earth Angel, so does Jackson & Perkins.

Heirloom might have better rooted roses, but for the price you cant beat Chamblees. I, for one, continue to patron them whenever possible as they have been consistently good for me. Also roses GROW, so even if the roots aren't all that impressive, you can give them time to grow before planting them. I don't think three times the cost justifies Heirloom at all, but that's just me.

I do order from Heirloom when they have a rose I cant get anywhere else though. They are a good source and hope to see them also stay in business.

Michaela, I ordered my EA from Chamblees. I usually order from Heirloom also, including today LOL, because they have a bigger selection. I just bought that Violet's Pride, couldn't resist! EA is now sold out at Heirloom by the way.

Also, on EA, I noticed and a couple of people also said that she gets yellow leaves on the bottom if she gets too wet so she might have stronger drainage preferences than average in case that helps you decide where to put her.

I've been pondering Wollerton Old Hall also though. I was afraid it might look dingy white in our heat but am very curious about the scent.

Summersrythm, thanks for the coupon info, will check that out!

Since Chamblees doesn't carry David Austin roses anymore it didn't cross my mind to look there for earth angel. I believe when I purchased from them two years ago their prices were closer to heirIoom roses so it was not a spectacular deal like it is now.

David Austin raised their prices when Chamblees stopped carrying them and my local nursery who also carried David Austin had to stop growing them also because of how much DA raised their prices.

My Chamblees roses are a year older than my Heirloom Roses and they have still not caught up and that includes two Jude the Obscures that are planted not far from each other and have the same amount of sun and watering. Since chamblees doesn't carry DAs anymore it doesn't really matter too much to me.

To each their own, my post was not meant to start a discussion on different rose suppliers anyway. I was just trying to share that a rose was available. Everyone is looking for something different so it's good to have different options and different suppliers. I prefer heirloom and like to support them because they carry such a wide variety of roses and I would be heart broken to lose them so I chose to support them.

Earth Angel is out of stock now on heirlooms site so if anyone is looking I'd buy from one of the other sites quickly before they're gone everywhere!

Lavender thanks for the tip on EA I will remember that! I am excited that you got Violets Pride! I am so tempted to order wollerton old hall but we will see. My list of DAs on my wishlist keeps growing and I keep finding some I love so much I need more than one which isn't helping anything! :)

LOL, I have the same problem!

Do you have lots of duplicates? I try to not to but I can't help myself sometimes! I have two Jude the Obscures, two Carding Mills and two Henri Martins and I just ordered a second Queen of Sweden. I could order 10 QoS!

Do the roses make good cut roses on EA or do they shatter?

I was so sad when Chamblees stopped offering DA roses. My last purchased DA from them was Darcy Bussell. I do like that they are now carrying many of the new kordes though. I'm in love with my Cream Veranda and Plum Perfect, as well as Solero Vigorosa.

I understand I was so sad when my local nursery stopped carrying them. I got a Benjamin Britten, a carding mill, and a Mary rose for $8 at the end of the season.

Umm...unfortunately for my credit card, more than just duplicates, LOL! 14 Jude the Obscure, dozens of Kordes, etc...

And my timing is never good either. They usually go on sale (tiny sales at Heirloom, nothing like $8)) the day after!

Roseses, I think I only had one tiny bloom on EA so can't comment on the shattering yet.

Lol, we are all rose shopaholics. I have 41 Heritage.......

You guys must have huge gardens! If I had 15-40 of one rose I could never have anything else... or my dogs would have no where to walk!! Hehe

Lavender that happens to me too!! Lately I've been hoarding wishlists until they do at least 10% off. That's enough of a reason for me to hit buy haha

Summersrythm, I thought I had too many Heritage at a dozen, wow! What kind of soil do you have? Heritage does shatter very quickly for me but the leaves are always clean in my no-spray garden.

Hello Gardners! I just recently ordered Earth Angel from Northland Rosarium and it's due to ship April 3rd. I'd like to grow her in a container for a couple of years on our patio and was wondering if any of you seasoned gardners had any success growing Earth Angel in a container; any tips or pointers? She's too beautiful to pass up, so I'm really hoping she does well in a container. Also, any advice on the best roses to grow in containers? I'm especially attracted to heirloom roses, but I think I've heard hybrid teas are best for containers. Any advise is greatly appreciated. Btw, I'm in North Carolina zone 7b

I have buds now on these really long thin canes so I'm interested to see if the blooms weigh them down and make them curved or if the whole cane comes down with the bloom?

Lavender lace- I have one on order from Reagan. I'm really hoping it doesn't get octopus arms! That's one thing I don't have room for nor does it appeal to me visually. I have read from others it tends to do this while young, then shapes up. Apparently the crazy growth doesn't produce blooms either. Keep us posted on how yours does please!!!

I also have Madame Anisette which is leafing out now. I've heard the same thing about her. Blind shoots, crazy excessive growth, etc. I'll definitely be pruning those parts back!

Sarah, I planted her right in front of my desk window with the plan that I can admire those beautiful blooms on a small plant that doesn't block the view. So I'm hoping that she calms down soon!

She didn't bloom on those long canes like the other Kordes that I planted last October. But I didn't prune her so she is budding on those same canes now in March. I was afraid to give her more stress when we had record setting cold and heat in the same winter.

But if everybody's is doing this, I guess I will have to be more aggressive with my pruning. I can't wait to see what the fragrance is like! Please report back in on yours.

Shikaro, she doesn't seem to love a lot of water so probably need to make sure that your pot has enough holes for good drainage. I have pretty fast draining soil and she can still get light leaves on the bottom after a rain. She might appreciate your pot because you can control the water.

I am sorry but if you leave just a few weak canes on a young plant the result will be "octopus arms" on these roses. What is purchased mail order are very young plants that need much more shaping and care to be good roses. Roses do not stress from having canes pruned- it makes them grow more and much thicker canes. It is not too late to cut these canes back. I can't imagine anyone wants a rose with canes so weak they cannot hold the flower upright.

So be brave and give this rose what it needs- a good pruning, after which apply a top dressing of a light fertilizer and some good mulch. Keep the rose uniformly moist. If you cut these back to 6-8 inches tall you will be rewarded with a whole lot of new canes starting to grow in just a few weeks and lots of blooms in a few months.

BTW I do not think that EA has a problem with being wet at least not in the 7 years I have been growing it in Oregon.

I am curious if you would still do this if there is only one cane with branching above that 6 to 8 inches?

What about pegging the rose? You'd have more canes and buds coming out those long canes.

http://paulzimmermanroses.com/gardening/training-roses/pegging-roses/

Pegging works but if those canes are already weak and thin then you would peg and then cut back and maybe that supporting cane is still weak. I am trying to create basal breaks or at the least breaks very low on the stem. Usually when the rose is pegged most breaks tend to come where the branch is horizontal. We do production growing and do not have the manpower or time for pegging and find that shearing is faster and produces far more basal breaks.

One stem - depends what you have - winter kill? did it come like that when you bought it? You sure it is not budded? Is it well branched and healthy at the 6-8 inch mark? An image would help answer that question.

It's acut ally a band of winter sun from heirloom so pretty sure it's own root...

Chris, it hurts to cut off the buds, worse than papercuts, taking blood out (for blood test), it hurts much much more......we are rose nuts. lol

I find a way to peg DAs thin canes without breaking, I just tie the thin canes together, 1 on 1, tip to tip, it works on many my DAs, and I got more blooms that way, and sooner or later the canes will be thicker and stronger, and more canes will grow out. I hate to cut long canes off my DAs, our growing season is short here, 6 months of winter, I value every inch growth I got from roses, every bloom, every bud means a lot to me...... but I am not a professional rose grower like you, I know you have a good reason. I am just growing roses with some shortcuts, may not be right, but it works so far in my ice hole. :-)

Sorry Lavenderlace, I just saw your post about Heritage. I have dark brown clay soil, over the years I have been adding on mulch/compost around roses. I mulch them before the winter every year. We get a lot of rain or snow from The Great Lakes: Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. I bought 1 own root Heritage from Chamblees 2 years ago, last year I found Heritage at Lowes, I went to 3 Lowes stores and bought all the Heritage they had, about 20 of them, by the time I was planting them, I found out some of them were double delights, my goodness, I was so happy, so since last summer I am a rose keeper of 41 Heritage. :-) I'd love to have a no spray garden, but I have midge. I am still finding my ways to kill midge.

Chris, if you know a way to kill midge please let me know. I have tried a lot of things over the years.

I purchased Earth Angel early last spring and I thought it would never bloom. It was a great lesson in patience for me. Patience is not my strongest quality. If a rose doesn't perform for me, it is quick to lose its spot. It finally bloomed in late fall and I was captivated. Only one bloom cycle. However, now this spring I have several buds forming and I can't wait. Here are some photos from last fall.

Suebelle

Stunning photos Suebell!

Summers, you understand my pain, LOL! I finally have buds, almost all of my roses are blooming, and the thought of whacking off the buds on plants that I haven't seen the first bloom yet is very disturbing!

Chris, thanks so much for posting! I think that I might need to describe my plants better. It's not just random octopus arms here and there, but the entire bush has long canes from the center. Then on the tops, they are branching out, also with buds. And some branching starting on the bottom and center so that is why I let her be. She's adding branches to the long canes by the day.

I was just hoping that's her growing style and that she's on the way to filling in. She's both taller and wider than expected though, not unhappy with her at all.

Regarding the water, a few people had posted about the bottom leaves changing after a rain or irrigation and I had noticed that also compared to others on her line like First Crush, etc... But I can say that about most of my Kordes compared to my Austins and I didn't mean it in a negative way. In fact, for most of us, less water is a positive!

I will truly consider chopping off all of these buds and branches though.....

Suebelle, your photos are gorgeous. I cannot wait for my Earth Angels to arrive.

Gorgeous photos Suebelle! And congratulations on having spring buds! Can you comment on the fragrance?

Oh my...Suebelle...those blooms are "da bomb"!!!!! Now I want it!

I should have ordered more than 1! So beautiful!!!

Sarah, Earth Angel was fragrant but I don't recall if it was exceptional or not I will let you know what I get the spring bloom which should be soon. Can't wait.

Suebelle

My Earth Angel produced 3-4 gorgeous blooms and then STOPPED. Its sent
out nothing but blind shoots since. Albeit on very healthy growth. It
has a lovely shape but no flowers after the initial small flush. I'm
desperate for more. I hope it picks up soon. I cut it back kind of hard
and it just rewarded me with three huge basal breaks (no complaints LOL)
but not one bloom. Its very bushy and very healthy though. I wonder if
it prefers warmer weather for blooming as when id did bloom it was in
higher temps and now in the cooler temperatures it has not produced
buds. I guess time will tell. Not sure if I should cut back those blind shoots again or what.

I think Sue Bell and I were in the same boat last year waiting forever for our new EA to set buds. (I also have MA which has not bloomed yet but that is for another thread). Both from Chamblees.

I think I finally got 2 small flushes out of EA. It blooms in cluster so not easy to cut just one bloom for vase. It did not last that long in the vase if I recall. But so beautiful. I am hoping to see more blooms this year.

I just pruned back those octopus canes from last year and will try to stay on top of them over the summer to make the bush more shapely. It is hard to delay gratification: long term shape vs blooms now.

I am just wondering if all the issues are limited to own root EA. I will report back after I plant my grafted EA.

Suebellle,

My Earth Angel went in last spring as a gallon size from Chamblee's. It took off like a race horse and gave me three blooming cycles. I was amazed!

The flowers open slowly and have great staying power, about 5 days in the garden, in the heat of summer. I would imagine for vase life, cut at the right time, 10 days would not be unreasonable to expect.

Kordes hit one out of the park with Earth Angel.

Moses and Totoro, I just went out to the garden and checked on my Earth Angel bushes. I have two on Fortuniana and they each have at least 10 buds or groups of buds. The own root bushes of Earth Angel are somewhat behind in forming buds, but look promising. Let's keep each other updated through this sping.

Suebelle

Suebelle Where did you get EA on Fort?

Summers, you might have a good point about the own-root. Mine are own root and if you can imagine 6 canes coming from the base that are about 3 1/2 feet long, that's what it looked like over the winter.

That growth came last fall after planting in October.

But the spring growth has been nothing but filling in and lots of buds, the original canes are still the same length. I will probably get the "worst gardener in the world award" but I think I'm going to just watch and see.

Even though it still has the same long canes, it visually looks so much stronger now that it's filling in. But is twice as big and wide as others on the same line planted the same time.

Moses, didn't you recently say that Chamblees sends multiple cuttings in one pot? I had no idea and didn't separate anything.

Also, mine is getting too much shade this time of the year so I think that it's great that she's covered in so many buds at all!

Yea yeah Suebell. I'd like to know that too. I'm guessing K&M but I believe they don't graft EA any longer. Is it larger than the own root ones?

I finally have buds on mine (2nd year own root Chamblees)!

I hope they open. I remember from last summer that they took a long time to develop and actually open. Maybe it will be different for first spring flush.

I just planted 3 from Palatine last Sat, can't wait for the buds! They aren't a week old in the garden yet. Lol

Mine have about a dozen blooms on each plant now with a strong fragrance.. The one thing that was totally my fault was not noticing the expected small bloom size until AFTER they were planted. So they look like mini Austin blooms in my climate!

The fragrance reminds me of First Crush.

I posted an update on Earth Angel on this forum before I saw this thread. Hope this link works.

Suebelle

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/4576507/update-on-earth-angel-rose?n=4

Are the bloom on Earth angel big?

If you scroll diwn on this link you can see a photo in comparison to a person's hand..sometimes it helps to see a comparison. https://hedgerowrose.com/rose-gardening/2018/05/22/rosa-earth-angel-korgeowim/