Barringtonia asiatica? only three sided pods
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Splitting pod question
Comments (4)HI Julie I have had pods do the same thing,some split when green some had ripe seeds like one chamber was ripe the other was not but if thay split, harvest the seeds before thay fall to the ground as then you will never find the seeds. I give mine what I call the pinch test, if I have any pod that looks as though it is ready to crack open I lightly pinch the top on each side of the pod if it splits ,its seeds are ripe if not wait a few days.good luck Dick...See MoreThe Dark Garden: The Hydro-Pod
Comments (26)You have to understand my reasons for choosing the Barbados nut in the first place. Before we start talking about gallons per tree we have to talk about what limits production. What problem can be over come to increase cultural production of a wild plant. With Barbados nut moisture really is what gives the higher yield of seeds in it's natural environment. But, and this is a very big but because it's also sensitive to too much moisture and will rot as seed and plant if given too much. Combine that with low viability of seed germination and you see why many countries that are trying to grow it for oil are giving up because of that problem. This was meant as a way poor farmers could have to make a little extra money. After more than twenty years they still have the same problems with this plant. Cloning helps and has increased production but not enough to help on a global scale. We're limited by the amount of knowledge we have to work with. It's that knowledge thing that I went after. Common knowledge say this shouldn't work because too much moisture causes root rot. But suppose it's not the water intake that causes the rot. It's the way the plant adapts to it's environment that's the problem. Can I explain it? Sure. I think I just did. But do you understand what I mean. Anyway limiting factor of water is over come but making estimates on production is kind of sketchy because I only have in ground estimates to use. In ground it takes 18 months to produce the first seeds a little less than a half pound up to five pounds in 3 years. Cutting off mature plants take only 9 months remember a cutting takes on the same age as the plant your taking it from. After that it's really about growing conditions. But my growing conditions are different than they are in the field so it's all new. So I planted some in ground for test comparison. And there's a big difference. Especially if your doing cloning for added feedstock. In the Hydro-Pods and Hydro-Pails the plants and cuttings started showing branching within the first week. Now why is chlorsis important to cuttings because it allows regeneration of plant material using old plant material Just like you get cut and your body use more of you to replace what was cut. The outside haven't even shown branching yet,. The feedstock plants are the same size but aren't making regrowth at the same rate. Now before I put this in print it's just a prediction of the different rates of growth between the same plants in different mediums. (I'm guessing but the model proves out) In ground an acre will yield about 325 - 350 gallons of oil on average. I'll go out on a limb here and say I'll produce three times that amount. Now before you go all hockey puck on me let me explain my reasoning. This is not unheard of. This is what native farmers claim. They claim even higher yields but there's no proof because it's a wild plant. These are people who go out wandering looking for these plants because of native culture the plants and seeds are used for different things than just burning. Seasons are different there�s no collected information on culturing Barbados nut for mass production other than the word of native farmers. Farmers who say go out into the woods and every now and then you'll see. Well through God's good graces He's allowed me to see the first part of the answer to this tree at a time we really , really need it. It's the delivery system of water. Here's the thing that gives me that cold tingle inside. Using this model the first yield will be about 500 gallons per acre to start second year using 2,000 trees per acre. That will jump to 750 -1,000 gallons during the third and fourth year. This isn't taking into account that with proper moisture levels these trees go into contuious seed production . Nor is it taking into account the multilevel farming structures this will allow you to develop. So with my model you get 1,000 gallons per acre from 2,000 plants. Place that inside a 5 level structure and you get 5,000 gallons of bio-fuel twice a year or if it goes into continuous seed production who knows. Still give me that cold tingle. Yes I've burned the oil using an old grape press and a nylon stocking for a fliter. It burns entirly clean with no ordor makes good soap and candles too....See MoreNew New Pods Falling Off
Comments (70)Yea, thats really strange that there is no new growth with this plant; I'm going with the lack of nutrients theory. The good news is that overall the plant does seem relatively healthy and the current pods are maturing nicely (and are decent size). I see what you are saying regarding the cycle, because the plant next to it has already started the growth cycle after its harvest and the same with one that we have planted outside (which is closer to what you were saying above in that it always as some flowers/peppers on it). I added another smaller dose of fertilizer (when normally I would have waited one more watering), so we'll see what that does. On a side note, these are Scotch Bonnets and I was expecting them to be wayyyy hotter. I think in terms of heat, the orange habs blow them away....See MorePlumeria seed pods splitting open...what to do?
Comments (14)Ok so as for now, I think I will leave the pods on the plumeria and loosely wrap some cheesecloth around them and see what happens. I was wondering if anyone has any advice as to help with my other questions. Why the oddly shaped leaves, which you can see one in my picture above. Not every leaf, but more like 3-5 per plant. I read some info regarding leaf stress disorder, which if that is what mine is, it is a very mild case compared to the pictures I saw. Also when my tree blooms, it only gets four blooms at the most, which are replaced sparingly by a couple more once they are spent. And the flowers only last like two days before shriveling up. I realize I need to fertilize, which I don't. But I also read on this forum that there is a debate with success on both sides regarding repotting in the same pot after a root trim, and potting up. I have kept my plumerias in clay pots, which are now crumbling, and I am not sure what to do here. I live in a hot desert where the temps get up into the 120s and stay there. The black florist pots I have seen recommended on here I worry would get way too hot in the sun and cook my roots. Plus I tend to overwater during the summer months, which some argue is hard to do where I live. In addition, my plumerias are inside, and the one in the crumbling clay pot looks like it isn't going to go dormant. It has almost an inch of shiny new growth at the branch tips just from this past month and a half it has been inside. Would it be ok to repot now and then wait a couple weeks before fertilizing, or should I just wait for spring? Thanks all! Cassandra...See Morepontyrogof
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