Need Advice About Rose Beds
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Advice & tips for preparing a rose bed in SE FL
Comments (3)Wow, sumognat! You have your own horse manure factory!!! When I dig my beds, I take out the depth of a shovel and replace it with everything you mentioned. Perhaps if I were younger and stronger, I'd go 2 feet deep, but I feel like a wacko as it is. Though the soil does become black in several months from all the added organics, my big question has always been "what happens when the roots extend beyond the amended area into the native sand?" So I guess I'm saying to go for the 2 feet if your back and pocketbook can hold up. I'm sure you can get good topsoil & compost in bulk. It's cheaper that way. I get my horse manure compost for free from a horse farm down the road. This year she said she "sanded" her stalls more which made the compost very heavy. I know she thought it was a good thing (and I don't know for sure that it wasn't), but I gasped at the word 'sand'. After all, I worked hard to get rid of the sand, and now I'm adding more! I don't know anything about horses or their bedding needs, but I do know the straw will pull nitrogen from the soil so you need to add extra nitrogen. I use a lot of Milorganite. The worms love it. I use Rose-Tone or Holly-Tone because that's what Lowe's carries, but I occasionally get a big bag of Purely Organic from a man in the local rose society. I use cottonseed meal, blood meal on occasion and lots of alfalfa in preparing the bed. Last year I used up a 50 lb bag of greensand in the beds I dug. It adds potassium (N-P-K: 0-1-6). Florida sand is typically very deficient in K. I found a company called Fertrell who had a local rep who sold their organic products out of his home so that's where I got it. I use Mycorrhizae - microorganisms that you add at planting that greatly enhance root growth. I sprinkle them directly on the roots before I put the plant in the hole. I also use "Vitamin B-1 Plant Starter" by Lilly Miller (from Lowe's.) This is very unscientific, but I forgot to use it once and several of my potted up roses withered and died. :(( At least it's cheap. I have limey sand so I use soil sulphur. I mostly grow own-root Old Garden Roses. I have a few on Fortuniana but 20 times as many on their own roots - Chinas, Teas and Noisettes. Hope this helps. Sherry...See MoreAdvice about Roses and a Rose Trellis
Comments (23)Don Juan is a climbing rose that grows typically at least 10-12' tall & 8' wide. You're concerned that the Knockouts will eventually grow too big for the space, so just checking in with Don Juan's eventual size. Since you plan to train the long canes horizontally, the height will be reduced by adding to the width. Jackson & Perkins recommends planting 8' apart for solid coverage. ( http://tinyurl.com/mr5r7a8 ) Click on "plant description" at that link for further details. So I'm with kippy & brittie here that you wouldn't need more than 2 for your 15' fence. Though you're thinking of trellis to space the roses away from the fence, consider the suggestions of boncrow & kippy for espaliering using the fence. Eyebolts of appropriate length can be screwed to the fence to hold horizontal runs of wire, or blocks of wood or whatever can be attached to the fence at right angles to project from it to hold shorter eyebolts for the same purpose. (And light to medium weight trellis can be attached in the same manner from the fence.) This is the simplest, least expensive & most unobtrusive method. Canes are lightly tied to the wires with soft material, as you probably saw in the videos, in a figure 8. Check out kona's photos - 3rd & 4th down on the left in the link below - to see how this has been done. There are only two runs of wire. While you're there, check out all the photos of this lovely rose & the ways it's been grown. Here is a link that might be useful: Don Juan photos This post was edited by vasue on Sun, Aug 31, 14 at 19:38...See Moreneed advice re rose hedge
Comments (6)Jackie -- Plant Iceberg. If it's not pruned a lot, and the plants are placed closely, it can be a magnificent continuous-blooming hedge for Southern California. It should be disease-free, mildly-fragrant, and widely available. I don't know where you are in CA, but if you are in SoCal, Otto & Sons in Fillmore sells to the Landscape trade. I suspect they will have well-grown Icebergs. Some will recommend Simplicity -- but you will do better with Iceberg. Just plant close, and don't prune hard. Jeri...See MoreAdvice for building a warm toned rose bed
Comments (28)So this morning it occurred to me that I could provide you with some "color studies" from my own garden on the theme of yellow and violet. Maybe making some bouquets of similarly colored flowers will help you get a sense for the combinations you like? Unfortunately, I don't have blooms yet on Munstead Wood nor Lady Emma Hamilton, since they are new. First, I held up a little (new, so probably stunted) clematis "Arabella" near Jude the Obscure so you could see how they look together. Then I put a bunch of Graham Thomas together with some blue-violet/lavender flowers from my yard. Below you see clematis Arabella and Durandii (the bigger one is Durandii), penstemon "Margarita BOP", and some sort of English lavender. Then I took the more plummy, red-purple things currently available in my garden, (a sweet pea and some purple basil) and stuck those in with some Graham Thomas. I added a magenta geranium too, just to see what it would look like to really push it towards cool red. Below you can see what a difference the presence or absence of the geranium makes, in terms of harmony....See MoreUser
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