Remove kitchen bump-out area and lay-out help
Our new house has an eat-in dinette area that has a "bump out" - an area that extends about 2-3 feet past the main exterior wall. The kitchen is pretty small, and this dinette area takes up a large portion of the space. We plan on renovating, but unfortunately due to the bump-out, I can't think of how to extend the kitchen into this area.
Our plan is to eventually open up the opposite wall going into the den (the wall that currently has the fridge), to have more of an open concept and create an island/peninsula, however that will mean losing some upper cabinets in an already small kitchen. We have eventually come up with the idea of removing the bump-out and making the exterior wall straight, which means we could extend that wall of cabinets about 7 extra feet, almost doubling the space for counters, cabinets, and appliances.
I have attached photos and a very elementary lay-out sketch (the LR and DR are bigger than the drawing shows). Does anyone have any other suggestions of how to extend the kitchen into this bump-out area? The windows in the bump-out go below counter-height, so we cannot easily add base cabinets. Plus, the bump-out would make for very odd angles to wrap cabinets around in. We don't care about having an eat-in area, plus if we open up that interior wall it will create an island to sit at. We just need more working room in this kitchen!
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rantontoo
7 years agoBuehl
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoRelated Discussions
Need help laying out my kitchen!
Comments (15)I think it's looking pretty good. Another thought here, though, is that the home's space at the back of the garage would be sadly underutilized. This is high-quality space. For one, this is under-roof/on-foundation space--very expensive and very precious. Do you really need to give up all the other ways you could use that space and spend, what? $80/square foot to store your lawn mower, Christmas ornaments, and bicycles? Maybe a shed or two against the garage wall or the back fence and a platform in the garage ceiling for that stuff? Two, it's one of the structure's precious 4 corners, meaning it can have sunshine from two directions. Corner condos always cost significantly more than inside ones for that very reason. People who can afford it build more corners into their homes for that reason. Sunny homes with corners maximized as good living space sell for more. In your case, one of the corners at that end is already sacrificed to the garage, so this is also the only potential living space that can have sunlight from that direction, whichever it is. The only good reasons to use a rare corner for storage would be if you were trying to block noise from jets taking off nearby or adding protection from an extreme climate. If there's a privacy/ugly view issue, higher window? Third, see one and two. That precious space needs to be inside. For busy living, not left dank and dark, gathering dust. Your needs are guaranteed to change over the years, and some of those changes you just won't be able to predict now. Think flexibility. Fourth, if you really have your hearts set on allocating that precious space for a storeroom, and maybe a workbench?, what's to keep you from using finished space that way? Give it a door to the outside for direct access, a utilitarian floor, and HVAC for comfort, and you have an additional room available should someone need a place to practice the drums or grandma ever need to move in. Fifth, consider rolling this room and the washer/dryer space together, either by a connecting door or as one room with lots of storage cabinets. Again, for flexibility. BTW, have you given thought to a brisk, efficient laundry washing system yet? So you don't end up living with piles of dirty and unfolded clean clothes lying out more days of the week than not? You'll need one more and more as your family grows, and this is the time to make your home amenable to whatever your preference may be in future. Lots of families have posted their systems on the web, and they can be fun reading. Laundry rooms can also make good craft/messy play space for the kids as you guys work. Flexibility. :)...See MoreNeed help with Kitchen Lay-out
Comments (4)Here's another option to consider. I made the assumption that you'll ea*t your meals primarily in the BK and not the DR. That's why I put the fridge closest to the table, making is eas*y to grab items for the table without crossing into the cook zone. to grab items for the table without crossing into the cook zone. I couldn't tell what purpose the cabs at the bottom of the kitchen were to serve so I gave it a suggested purpose. How wide is that span of cabs? I'm guessing it's about 75", which is just enough room to put the fridge (gen'l 39" to 40" for fridge and fridge cab) and ovens (30" to 33" for oven cab) next to each other. This post was edited by lisa_a on Tue, Jul 29, 14 at 18:09...See MoreNeed help laying out an L-Shaped Living & Dining Area
Comments (5)Put the "battle station" (some call it a drop zone) either to the left of the front door, or to the right, but even better to the right of the door along the wall adjacent to the closet. That defines a little "foyer". Place a lamp on the table, not to high wattage, and hang something above it. Maybe a mirror? Put the mini-fridge in storage. Unless you need some airtight storage somewhere, in which case it can be used unplugged. What dimensions is the bar-height table? Perhaps that could go in the kitchen for extra appliance placement (a toaster and the coffeemaker, you can perch on the stool for your morning bagel). Do you actually eat at your dining room table? Your dining room probably will work very well as your home office-studio. It might be a nice place for the rug! For the living space: your only seating is the futon? How long is it? i just noticed that you have an "office/rec room". How do you use that room?...See MorePls Help w/ kitchen layout, Wonky bump out
Comments (8)If you are planning on having two dishwashers, I'd suggest placing one on each side of the clean-up sink, and making that run in the bump-out 27" deep, with a 15" deep cabinet in the corner. The island, as drawn on your plan, is 6.5' x 7', but I made it 6' x 6.5' plus overhangs, which will give you 48" cabinet-to-cabinet on the clean-up sink aisle--the extra three inches will provide space for the overhangs (1.5", although I prefer 1", especially in a small kitchen). I think you can get by with the narrower aisle between the pantry and island, if the fridge is moved to the range wall, as per bb's suggestion. The dish storage on the island has moved back, with a trash pull-out on the corner of the island, convenient to all zones. You can also store dishes in the 15" deep base cabinet. Prep space on the island is 42+", on the left, with landing space and an 18" cabinet to the right of the prep sink. BTW, you'll need a DW return panel for the DW on the end, to support the countertop....See MoreBuehl
7 years ago
sena01
7 years agoHere's a rough idea.
I kept the bump out, but have shorter windows. Main sink and DW are there with 15 or 18" deep cabs/12 or 15" deep uppers and the fridge on the DR wall. Corner is void, so you 'd need fillers on both sides. Please see this great thread by buehl about corner/fillers.
Thinking a 30 or 33" sink base and a 12" trash next to it.
I have the range on the other exterior wall and an island with a prep sink across the range.
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