When and how to repot 3 months old Calamondins.

8 years ago

Hi everyone! I planted a few calamondin seeds 3 months ago. I potted em in 4-inch pots and a couple of them I noticed the roots are starts to come out just a couple centimeters through the pot hole (the roots grow straight and not spreading sideways as yet). Is it time to repot it or is it too early? How big of a pot should i get if i do need to repot? I was thinking of getting plastic pots so it's easier to move the plants... any suggestion which would be better for calamondins?

I keep my calamondins indoors (on my window for sunlight) but i put them outside when the weather isn't chilly.

Do I change the soil when i repot? I have been using Miracle-gro Potting Mix since day 1. Can I use the same kind and for how long can I use this kind of mix?

i have no experience with planting or any knowledge about taking care of citrus plants. So, any basic tips and advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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cory (Zone 7a, NJ)

8 years ago

Hi Babygurljn, your Calimondin seedlings are growing nicely! Are those 4" clay pots? I don't know where you live, but if you are going into winter soon I would not repot them until spring. You have to be careful watering them now as your soil holds water and will take longer to dry out in winter. Also a clay pot near a window may get quite cold so you may want to pull it back from the windowsill on cold evenings. Citrus roots should stay above 55°F, and the soil in the pot can be less than room temperature in a clay pot on a windowsill. You may also want to water from the bottom so mold does not form on the soil surface as easily. Do not leave water standing in the pot though more than about 20 minutes to half an hour. Citrus roots do not like standing water at their roots. You seem to understand watering though as your seedlings are doing great. Are you fertilizing them yet? If not I would start feeding them with Foliage Pro at 1/4 -1/2 strength. In the spring consider repotting them in the 511 mix or at least use Miracle Grow Garden Soil rather than Miracle Grow Potting Mix as that mix holds too much moisture for citrus and is too dense and will compact too quickly and not provide enough oxygen around the roots. Just be careful about watering this winter and allow the mix to just dry a bit between waterings. You can check the soil 's wetness in the bottom of the pot with a wooden stick or pencil. Stick it in the soil near the edge of the pot, pull it out and if it is damp or wet, the soil in the pot is still too wet so you should not water until the stick comes out dry. Good luck with your cute seedling trees. You have done well with them so far, but winter indoor conditions can be hard on them if you are not careful with your watering and keeping the rootball above 55°F. Welcome, we are all here to help if you have more questions.

Cory

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poncirusguy6b452xx
8 years ago
I planted

4 Meiwa kumquat seeds 6 weeks ago. 3 rotted and.
The root is now 3/8 inch long. To prevent damp off I have to lift the tree out and water the soil. I powder the tree with rooting hormone and place the seed on top of the soils surface with the root going into its own hole. This keeps the trunk safe from damp off.

I should have planted Calamondin seeds.

6b Steve
calamondindave
8 years ago
That looks good, Steve. You certainly are a diligent grower. Are kumquats hard to start?
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poncirusguy6b452xx
8 years ago
The Meiwa kumquat is about the hardest of all citrus/fortunella to grow from seed. I made a decision 4.5 years ago to grow Meiwa kumquats and ordered 10 pounds of Meiwa fruit and planted some 300 seeds. Only 1 tree made it past 4 months and that tree died back to just above the roots many time before I learned enough to grow any citrus other than Meiwa trees from seed. I have lost 12 out of 13 Meiwa seeds/trees in the first 3 months. I would not recommend growing these from seed you have the seeds from your own fruit.
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
8 years ago
I searched in Amazon for Foliage Pro fertilizer and noticed they have different numbers. Which one would any of you suggest I get for calamondins (3-4 months old)?
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calamondindave
8 years ago
I'm using the 9-3-6 one. Here's a link to one like I order: https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Gro-DYFOL032-Dyna-GroFoliage-Pro-Ounce/dp/B004A27DJA/
Jalaine Nellas thanked calamondindave
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
8 years ago
with 5 pots (4-inches), how much of the fertilizer would I need to use, and how often do we fertilize them? Thanks so much for the help, calamondindave
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calamondindave
8 years ago
My Foliage pro bottle suggests putting 1 tsp of fertilizer per gallon of water, which is what I do for my big trees (sometimes more) - but for seedlings I'm really not so sure what is best as I am fairly new to citrus seedlings myself. Last year I started my first calamondins by seed and used the suggested amount. I didn't use foliage pro every watering, but my seedlings started looking hungry this summer, so now I use it almost every watering. I also sprinkled in a little osmocote plus in the soil this summer. It's been a year now and they have grown well. Check mine out HERE.
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
8 years ago
oh wow! I saw the pics and yours did grow quite fast in 19 days. they looked just a little bit younger than my 3 months old now! I think mine have slowed its growth for the past month. I think it's time to really fertilize them. Someone above suggested to fertilize it from the bottom. I'm not sure if it was you or someone else. Is that how you did it, calamondindave?

I've never fertilized a plant before.
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
8 years ago
I'm about to order the Foliage Pro in amazon. Anything else you suggest I would end up using esp for thecoming months and also repotting in spring?

Sorry for these dumb questions. Just have no clue what to use or do next.
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calamondindave
8 years ago
I just fertilize when watering the pots (water+foliage pro). Never have fertilized from the bottom. Perhaps Steve can suggest more in this area, he has much more citrus experience than me, and his trees that I've seen here all look healthy. I believe he also does a foliar fertilize routine.

My seedlings were under grow lights in the winter, and so grew straight up. By the window you may have a problem with them growing towards the light, not so straight (getting leggy). Some rotate seedlings, others add a light source to help out. That's something to be aware of.

I re-potted mine in the spring to bigger pots, they seemed to like that and grew well over the summer.
poncirusguy6b452xx
8 years ago
Citrus seedling are very susceptible to damp-off disease that causes the stem to rot at the soil line. Watering from below allows you to water the tree and keep the soil surface dry to prevent Damp-off disease. I also raise the tree so that about the top 1/2 inch of the root is above the soil surface to farther protect the stem from Damp-off. You must wait until the root is long enough or the roots may dries out to easily.

When your tree reaches about a foot or more tall the trees has much better resistance to damp-off

6b Steve
poncirusguy6b452xx
8 years ago
Root of Meiwa kumquat is to short to safely raise above the soil line

Seed is at the soil surface with 100% of the green stem above soil.
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
8 years ago
My citrus seedlings look like that - roots look exactly the same too.
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calamondindave
8 years ago
Interesting technique. I should have done that with my sumo seedling I lost earlier this year, maybe it wouldn't have died. Luckily none of my calamondins seedling have had the problem, yet. Perhaps they are a bit more resistant.
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
8 years ago
Thanks Dave for all the tips! you've been really helpful.

And steve I agree with Dave regarding the technique, I'll remember that and will fertilize my seedlings as you suggested.

I take note of everything you all suggest here. :)
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago
Hi everyone! I'm back coz It's time to repot my calamansi plants... They have grown quite a bit now that they're about 9 months old. I think they will grow better after moving them to a bigger pot (from 4-inch clay pots). I have a half gallon and 1 gallon pots.
I have never repotted a plant before. So, my questions are:
What do I do after I repot the plants? Which pot size should I move them into?
Do I water them right after potting?
I was advised here to use Miracle Gro Garden Soil. I am attaching a pic of the soil I got today. I asked for 5-1-1 but our walmart here doesn't have it and we don't have any other stores in this small town, sadly. I wanna ask if this soil will suffice for my growing calamondins? The guy suggested this compared to the "all-purpose" Miracle Gro Garden Soil after I told him I'm growing a citrus plant.
Any other tips so the plants would be able to adjust better as it goes through shock?
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poncirusguy6b452xx
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago
Get a bag of perlite and add to about 1 unite of perlite to 3 units of your bagged mix. If you can find a bag of shredded pine bark fines add a couple of units to the above mix. The Miacle Gro cactus mix is to heavy for citrus and will suffocate the roots in any pots much bigger than the 4 inch pots you are now using.

6b Steve
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
Would the potting mix i've been using before be better than this mix combined with the perlite?

Thanks steve.
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poncirusguy6b452xx
7 years ago
I use 5 parts finely shredded pine bark fine, 4 parts used miracle Grow potting, and 1 part perlite. This worked well for my seed grown Fukushu kumquat trees. If you have not opened the bag of MG cactus mix take it back ad look up gritty mix and 5-1-1. Chose one of these mixes for your trees. If you can't take the cactus mix back you will do fine with my suggestion above. I did not see what you are currently using. When trees are just sprouting and have small roots they need the wetter heavier soil so it won't dry out and leave you with dead plants.

6b Steve
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
I got a bag of pine bark mulch. that's the smallest of the barks they have. would that be ok? they don't have perlite or 5-1-1. Would you suggest using the potting mix with the bark or garden soil? i have both at home.
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
I've grown my seedlings in Miracle Gro Potting Mix. I was told earlier in this forum that Miracle Garden Soil would be a better one for when I repot. Like I mentioned above, there's an all-purpose Miracle Gro Garden Soil but chose this when the guy showed me it's labeled for citrus plants. I haven't opened the bag yet. Now I'm unsure if I should use the previous potting mix or the garden soil i recently bought. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of options here. just the soil and bark. :(
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
This is the potting mix I used on my seedlings. I still have enough to repot them in if mixed with bark.
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poncirusguy6b452xx
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago
Can you post current pictures of your trees.

I use much heavier soil than anyone else does. I like this because in 90F weather I only have to water my trees 1 time a week maybe 2 times. In the winter I can go more than a month and up to 2 months between watering. To prevent root rot I have to draw air through the root base every day for 2-4 weeks after a thorough watering. I can leave the tree alone for the next 2-4 weeks until the next watering. My winter time setup
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My seed grown Meiwa kumquats are also in a heavy soil and I draw air through them every day

I will be up planting my Meiwa seedlings May 15th into 1 gallon bottomless containers and they will be placed in 5 gallon bucket inside a ring of beet plants. The beet greens will encourage upward growth of the Meiwa seedlings. I plan to us a mix of 50% pine bark fines and 50% seasoned compost. You could say I cheat and grow citrus trees in ways that would leave others' trees dead.

Eithe MG bag mix will work as long as you add at least 1/4 perlite to it. As your pots get bigger and deeper it becomes more important to have free draining soil.

Fukushu in bottomless 1 gallon can on top of bucket with beet seeds to germinate.
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6b Steve
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
I just repotted 2 of my 3 plants. i'll see how it adjusts to the garden soil mixed with pine bark before I repot the last one (the biggest of the 3).

the one still in the 4 inch clay pot is in potting mix. I'll keep it in the original pot until I see that the two won't die in the new mix.
poncirusguy6b452xx
7 years ago
looks great.

These are the 9 Meiwa seedlings from last fall
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6b Steve
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
yours look taller than mine and mine were planted summer last year. Good job!

My two repotted plants today grow slower now compared to the tallest one. For some reason that taller one just grew faster for the past few months while the others slowed down. I wonder why that is. But they seem healthy so I guess that's what matters more. :)
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poncirusguy6b452xx
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago
My shortest is 3.5 inches and my tallest is 8.5 inches. Meiwa kumquat leaves are much smaller and their leaves are about 1/3 inches apart. I give my kumquats 16 hours of light a day. They spend morning through evenings in the window sills east then to south and then go into a bucket light till midnight, then into the east window they go.

2 bucket lights for 9 trees. The extra 4 hours of light has increase growth 2 to 3 time faster than before.

6b Steve
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
Hi! I've repotted my plants last April and they have adjusted very well. I didn't see any degrading in their growth since I changed soil. They actually did better than I expected.

It's been a month since i repotted and I noticed one of them seemed to have grown slower. It was supposed to be the 2nd taller plant out of the 3. Now, the one that used to be the smallest and shortest is almost as tall as the tallest plant (approx 1 foot). And I also noticed that its leaves look different from the other two.. it has started to curl down - not fragile or feeling thin as when they need to be watered. It's just curled down and 2 or 3 of the bottom leaves have this cut-like appearance. One also has a white patch. I do everything the same with all three plant. just not sure why it's changing differently. Can someone pls let me know what these mean?
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Sammers510
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago
It may be salt burn, try flushing the pot with water, I think the ratio is 4x the pot size of water and let it all drain out.
Laura LaRosa (7b)
7 years ago
I have some seedlings that have that and I think it is salt buildup. Mine started out in potting soil until a few days ago when I moved them to 5-1-1. I am sure it was salt buildup from being in that heavy soil.
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
in response to the previous answers, thank you! i have watered my plants hoping it will rinse off the salts in the soil. i've been leaving them outside for some direct sunlight and also in hopes that the soil won't stay wet for too long.

i noticed this morning on of em has this on a couple of leaves. what does this mean?

and since i have changed my soil (reporting) to miracle grow garden soil mixed with bark shreds, there are some flies (like fruit flies) on the soil. there's more now that i've left them outside for the past 3 days. is that safe to have those insects around the plants?
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
2 of 3 have been bending also. the other one looks sturdy and maintained upright even tho it gets windy. is it coz of the wind blowing em to the side or possibly something else? it's these two same plants who have the salt problem too.
what can i do?
poncirusguy6b452xx
7 years ago
All my seed grown meiwa kumquat trees lean. Nothiung to worry about. The leaf mark is also nothing to worry about.

Your trees look great.

6b Steve
Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
7 years ago
I agree with Steve about them leaning. The flies are fungus gnats. They breed in damp soil and are harmless but can be annoying. The presence of fungus gnats means that your soil mix retains a lot of water and that you have to be very careful that you do not overwater. You can treat the gnats with Gnatrol or by crumbling some Mosquito Dunks onto the soil and watering.
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
There's a web-like thing on one of the leaves. I'm not sure but it seems like there a worm in it. The other leaf (tiny leaf) seems like it's been eaten up and there's a white stuff (almost similar to the web-like substance) on it also.

Does it need medication or am I doing something wrong?

:(
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Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
7 years ago
No medication needed. Just remove the worm and web.
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
Something seems to keep happening to my calamondins, esp this one (it's the same plant that has been outgrown by two others that used to be half its size, and it's the same plant that had the salt problem).

Why is the leaves turning yellowish? I water them all at the same time and the others looks fine and healthy. :(
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
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Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
7 years ago
It is either sun burn or chemical burn. Did you put them out in the sun recently or sprayed them recently?

If sun burn, put in semi-shade for two weeks before putting back into full sun.

If chemical burn, don't spray for a while and check instructions for spraying the chemical.
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Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
Thanks Vladimir for the response.

I don't spray it with anything. I only use foliage fertilizer which i pour into the soil every few weeks only. So I'm guessing it's the sun.

I thought they like being out under the sun and have more resistance to hear but I guess I have to be careful about that now.

this happened after less than two days being outside under the sun.

I moved them at the balcony now so they can still have light but indirect. What else can I do to prevent this from happening again? How long should they stay under the sun in a day?
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Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
7 years ago
Keep them in indirect light for two weeks, then put into direct sun for all day.
cory (Zone 7a, NJ)
7 years ago
Little seedlings like that are more sensitive to direct sun than mature trees. You probably should keep them in indirect sunlight until they are a couple years old. A place where they get early morning sun and then indirect sun mid-day would be good.

Cory
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
Thank you Vladimir and Cory. I was suspecting it's too much exposure to sun. I thought it would be good for them since Calamondins don't like wet feet. I was worried it would retain too much water with the new soil they're in.

Learning from all this. thanks!
Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
7 years ago
Cory, I respectfully disagree. Two years in indirect sun is way too long. That will result in leggy trees.
Silica
7 years ago
I've always put my seedling trees into direct sun from day one..
poncirusguy6b452xx
7 years ago
I am having sunburn problem on all 5 of my seed grown meiwa seedlings. They are in direct all day sunlight. I think my issue was lack of water in 90F temps. My 2 Fukushu kumquat seedlings did fin in all day sunlight. Citrus trees are full of surprises.

6b Steve
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sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
7 years ago
Steve, my kumquat seedlings are not growing, very strange (slow) pattern of growth, they are indoors.
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cory (Zone 7a, NJ)
7 years ago
Vlad and Silica, I grow a lot of citrus trees from seed and they do burn in my yard if I keep them unprotected in mid-day direct sun. I have learned the hard way. My seedlings do not get leggy. I try to grow them amongst my larger older citrus trees so they do get a lot of hours of sun but some shading from the mid-day hot sun from the leaves of the larger trees. Maybe my sunny location doesn't get enough air circulation to keep the leaves cool, so I would advise everyone to keep a close watch on seedlings and young trees as there seem to be lots of examples of picures of seedlings and young trees with severe sun burn on these pages. Not everyone's growing conditions are the same. If the leaves are hot to the touch, protect them from direct sun or they will be burned to a crisp.

Cory
Jalaine Nellas
Original Author
7 years ago
Hi, Im having new issues with my calamondin plants, one plant in particular. I noticed there’s something that seems to be eating the leaves but I’m not sure what it is. I checked worms on the leaves (like the last time), but no signs of any of them on my plants. Also, there’s some distortions and discoloration on the leaves. I’ve been keeping them out from direct sunlight. Most of the direct sunlight is during early mornings, then the rest of the day it’s indirect, and I leave them at the patio so they can have fresh air and also nicer temp (between 75-87 degrees F). I’m hoping someone can tell me what I can do.
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Jalaine Nellas
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7 years ago
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