Drop down seating attached to island?
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Table attached to island - yes or no?
Comments (18)This isn't the most flattering picture of my kitchen (and I am in the process of painting the cabinets now -- it's been a slow, budget-conscious update), but when we moved into our townhouse it had this lower table area instead of a high counter top. I thought immediately that I wanted to rip it out, but I've really grown to love the versatile area. I don't like sitting at bar-stool height and I bake a lot -- so we decided to keep it and just refresh the top with butcherblock. Obviously it is not as lovely as some of these other remodels, but I find it works for our needs. This home was built in the 80s, but I think the table-height counter is coming back into style....See MoreLayout help and island seating clearances
Comments (12)Thanks for the comment on seating height. Maybe it is really remodeling for retirement, which is still 8-10 years off, vs a full on aging in place never leave plan. I don't want to have to move because of something we could have planned for. I want to be smart - one level living, wider doors, curb less shower but am not sure I'll let it dictate things that we wouldn't have to move over (when I have a strong opinion on how I want it that conflicts). We have been through it all with our own parents so I'm fully aware - my parents had to move due to stairs and no way to live on one level in their house - and both our mothers ended up in wheelchairs and assisted living my Mom is not basically bed bound and cannot even feed himself -- my Dad is a healthy 89 and says the counter stools are fine for him (preferred not bar height but could still do it). If things got bad for both of us we would likely go to a care facility (have long term care insurance). But one healthy and one well but in a wheelchair or both a bit stiff and limited and not wanting to go up the stairs anymore - then I'd want to stay. OK with not sitting at the island if cannot (bathroom is my next focus where the debate is open space under the vanity or not - I don't love the look but that isn't as hard to change later as the shower - grab bars I'll do now as they might prevent a fall and I don't mind them vs block for them an add later our architect suggested). For now I prefer counter height for view (not having higher island to have to look over) and a better perch for people talking to me while I cook. We have the dinning table a few feet away where someone in a wheelchair could sit so not a move forcing issue. Could even be lowered later if planned for right....See MoreIsland seating
Comments (26)You might be ok storage wise without the island. The big issue I see is lack of awesome landing space that the island gives you. If you go with a table instead, it's rather low to work at, and the chairs will always be in your way. Our layout is similar to what Beuhl proposed, and we've been making do with a variety of island-like structures and tables for a couple of years now. When we renovated our dining room, we did without any island and used solely a table for all our meals in the kitchen. The lack of working and landing space is what hurt the most. The convenience of easy cleanup was a definite perk. Benches at the table that pushed completely underneath when not in use would have helped, rather than having the chairs in the way, and having to reach over the chair backs to set things down. Also, an island allows you to work facing outward, rather than with your back to everyone....See MoreKitchen island overhang for side seating? How??
Comments (8)Outside perimeter (max length = 118”) support is adequate for countertops supported on four sides with depths less than 26”. For quartz countertops supported on four sides with depths greater than 26”, in addition to the outside perimeter support, every 36” additional front and back underside support is needed. Countertops supported on 3 sides (i.e., dishwasher design restriction), a substrate is required. For 2 cm (13/16") thick slabs that are less than 26”, a 2” x 4” substrate is required at widths greater than 24”. For 3 cm (1 3/16") thick slabs less than 26” deep, a 2” x 4” substrate is required at widths greater than 36”. For cabinets that overhang the support structure, like cabinets, additional support may be needed. Evenly spaced corbels at 36” or less are recommended for 2 cm quartz countertops hanging 12”-18” over cabinets as well as 3 cm overhanging 15”-24”. For 2cm countertops hanging more than 18”, or 3 cm countertops that overhang the cabinet greater than 24”, a solid substrate and support leg(s) or columns are suggested. Both 2 cm and 3 cm thick countertops may require half wall overhangs for service bars. Half wall overhangs less than 1/3 the depth of the top does not need any additional support. Corbels are necessary to support all other half wall overhangs at ¾ of the total overhang depth with a maximum spacing of 36”, and must be placed at wall studs or bearing structure. Acceptable support materials include ¾” plywood, structural steel, and 2”x6” materials. Particle board is not acceptable for support. Good luck...See Moreblfenton
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