Porch ceiling question
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Comments (3)I am not a big fan of the V in the middle. I do like the round over in the joint just looks refined. Say Hi to the George for me. If you do go with the screw install be sure the pre drill dosent go past the ipe and into the framing this makes for sloppy fastining. JonMon...See MoreCeiling fan for 8' ceiling covered porch
Comments (9)Actually, most ceiling fans (not huggers) are made to be installed on 8 foot high ceilings. It's only when a ceiling is lower than 8 feet that you need a hugger fan. As long as the blades are 12" or less from the ceiling it will be up to code. Here are some other important considerations: 1) Outdoor areas require more airflow than indoor areas because they are not confined spaces and the open air takes away from the intensity of the breeze since there are no walls for the air to bounce off. 2) When the blades of a fan are less than 12" from the ceiling, the amount of airflow it produces is reduced dramatically. Hugger fans may move as much as 30% to 50% less air than a fan that is hanging from a short rod where the blades are 12" from the ceiling. 3) It is better to use 2 smaller fans than one bigger fan, particularly outdoors. Smaller fans spin at a higher RPM and typically will produce a stronger breeze, but they produce that breeze in a smaller area, hence the need for two of them. So, two 52" to 60" fans is better than one 72" to 84" fan. 4) Don't just pick a fan by it's looks. Be sure to check out how much air it moves (CFM) and how fast it moves the air (Windspeed in MPH). The most important consideration is the wind speed because ceiling fans cool you off by creating a wind chill effect that is directly related to how fast the air flows, not how much air is moved. Larger fans move a larger volume of air, but at a lower speed. Even the best typical size fans (52" to 60") can only produce wind speeds close to 4 MPH. Lower end models may only produce 1 to 2 MPH. So look for fans as close to 4 MPH as possible. 5) Ceiling fans with the newer DC motors use about 75% less electricity and are typically better quality than the common AC motor fans. Here's a link that filters: DC outdoor ceiling fans with Wind Speed Close to 4 MPH Greg Tillotson Ceiling Fan Expert Hansen Wholesale https://www.hansenwholesale.com...See MoreCan I leave my pine porch ceiling stained and not sealed?
Comments (22)Thank you RES 3D. And everyone. I appreciate all of the feedback....even the things no one wants to hear. The spots are actually from sap. After the first board appeared spotted, I inspected them closer as I was moving along. I plan to bring everything I’ve learned straight to the paint store. Good thing is...I have a handy trim carpenter at my disposal. If it turns out to be a total bust, it’s still worth the tens of thousands we saved not having a builder and putting in a little elbow grease PS- I have a whole new respect for builders...and the construction market in general! We’ve encountered FABULOUS tradesmen along the way. This porch ceiling looks amazing so for now I plan to completely enjoy it before it’s possible demise!...See MoreScreened porch addition: ceiling question with hip roof
Comments (22)There are two criteria you have mentioned, a [1] vault/cathedral and [2] exposed rafters/beadboard. These need to be approached as different thought processes: [1] A complete cathedral ceiling following the roof rafters would not be a good solution with this steep roof pitch. If you reference @Jon Alan's 3-D drawing (thank goodness he did that!), you can see you have a very shallow 14' depth of footprint combined with an upper wall that needs to be present to block seeing the existing roof. That would create a large, cavernous out of proportion space with a tiny length of ridge at the top. Add to that the slanted hip roof converging with the straight vertical attic wall, and the darkness up there, it would look nothing like any of the inspiration pictures you have let alone the functionality of cleaning cobwebs. Many might say use a gable roof instead of the hip. However, I do not think that would be a good solution for the same reasons. The footprint width is 24'-8" and a gable would spread that width at that steep pitch. So you would be left with a similar cavernous out of proportion cathedral ceiling at only 14' deep. Not to mention the gable end wall would be very high (though maybe filled with windows?) and would probably dominate or not fit with the existing house roof and proportions. Again cleaning those windows and high ridge point and seeing that huge blank attic wall. [2] Exposed rafters and beadboard can be donein any case of roof, whether following the roof rafters or on a false ceiling. The beadboard can actually be "faux," meaning it does not have to be on the outside of the rafters, but added later as a finish in between the rafters. __________________ So, it seems to solve the proportion dilemma for a vault/cathedral, you have 2 choices: [A] lower the pitch on the roof (whether hip or gable), or [B] create a lower false ceiling inside (whether that ceiling is a tray, hip, or gable): [A] Will a lower pitch than the existing roof blend well with the house? Will a gable look out of place? [B] When building a false lower ceiling, which of the 3 styles would lend well to being exposed adjacent to an enclosed flat ceiling, and remain proportionate to the 14' depth x 24'-8" length? __________________ Realize if your footprint were rotated and was 24' deep and only 14' wide, then that would lend better to an exposed hip or gable cathedral roof, and it would look like most of your inspiration pics....See MoreVirgil Carter Fine Art
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