I think you have identified my red lily! Thanks so much. I had read on GW about the Oxblood Lily's coming with the German settlers and wondered if that was what it was. This means a lot to me because my mother's ancestors were German immigrants to Texas, one line arrived in 1870's through Galveston, another arrived much earlier in Pennsylvania, from there to South Carolina>Tennessee>Missouri finally found Texas where my great grandfather settled in the Granbury area ;) The white flowered bulb looks a lot like this daffodil minus the trumpet. It has a tinge of purple before it opens, but once open it is totally white. http://www.dutchgardens.com/Mount-Hood-Daffodil/default/StandardCatalog.specialtyf.12002B.cpd Thanks so much for your help! Peggy

I am all for discussing a point and I think it is a great habit to get into to check what someone tells you. But, making a point, shouldn't be at the expense of courtesy and consideration of people and their different views and experience. It is a common understanding online that using capital letters is considered shouting, which you did in your first post addressed to me, which I didn't appreciate. And you sarcastically suggested that the concern over the roof is exaggerated, because you don't think he will allow the vine to lift the 'entire roof'. That is misleading. It doesn't take lifting the entire roof to cause moisture to get under the shingles. And you made my point exactly when you say...'you can't blame the vine for wanting to grow.' That was exactly my point. If it wants to grow where it wants to and you only want it to grow where you want it, then it's a job, a responsibility. And failure to do this gardening job has consequences to your house, not just the garden. I was bringing that to the attention of the OP in case he was not aware of that. I was not telling him that I thought he shouldn't grow it. For me personally, it is about risk. Roof repairs, water damage, replacing siding, are all expensive jobs. You see it as a small risk, a manageable risk, but for me, it has to be no risk. To me it is just not worth the risk and I would rather grow my vines on trellis and other support than on my house. That's just one person's opinion.

I have decided on some door prizes...... Came the farthest Newbiest gardener Been gardening the longest ..and a couple drawings which everyone can take part in. Nothing fancy but should be fun. I'm still potting up. Today I did a few houseplants, jade, philo, a weird aloe, and a couple other odds and ends. I have all the paper, plastic (plates, cups, napkins, plasticware) and ice covered. I'm also bringing chicken and some kind of salad or baked beans. Remember newbies, if you don't have any plants you can always bring food. You can also bring seeds, cuttings, garden mags or books, pots, yard art, buckets, or anything else you can think of that's garden related and you want rid of. Time to clean out the shed? Dawn and Bob, guessing game salvias are fine with me! Will plant and see what happens. Glad you're bringing guest, the more the merrier! Please bring some of your bird house gourds. I know my husband would love those! I have one of the old long handle dipping gourds hanging above my desk that I think Don's dad or maybe granddad grew. It's pretty cool!

On my return to Sri Lanka I planted a Mucuna Bennetti about 4 years ago and it is on a trellis and growing vigourously. However, it is showing no signs of flowering! Many years ago, on this same site, with probably a little more sunlight then than now, I had a Mucuna vine growing on a similar trellis and it used to be loaded with flowers and it began to flower within about 2 or 3 years of planting. What is the explanation for this state of affairs? The light that the vine now receives is less than its predecessor did many years ago but it is not in shade, per se. Help!