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'Wirt L. Winn' springs to mind for second, perhaps inappropriately! There are many hollies, I have seen plants looking like both your pictures but cannot say what these particular ones are with certainty. Maybe you should try H. Hume's holly book.

RD, Could we see the plant too? Beautiful flowers. Dan Lincoln, NE USDA 5

Hi Gene And Thanks.This settle the problem if we read the last paragraf it is clear that Mister Denis Had the corect Brown Turkey in his #2 dish,wich Had a much longer neck,and it had much better flavor.This is also the only fig in England that has some purple, outside coloring and is common.(This is English Brn.Trk,The one and only) The# 1 dish by Mr Porter,it was in fact Archipel,wich had a shorter neck and a flat,eye end. That is Why i say that ,the English Brown Turkey is really easy to ID,because it has a very long neck,as in (Flax Post),and as Antonio's fig. Gene,Thanks Again,And i have no more confusion,wich one is the English brn Turkey. I would like to say that to date i had bought about five Brown Turkey plants and all were Impostors,or other varieties. "Gene" you are the best reasercher.