Why you should buy Grande Dame!!
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Nelsons Florida Roses Tamora and Grand Dame
Comments (16)I wonder. I have heard about "bad grafts" that just don't thrive. But some roses just take a while to get going. I do think the age of the rose and its location in the garden are two big factors. But I still think it has more to do with the variety. Some do better then others in Florida. Even grafted ones don't always thrive depending on the conditions. I have an easy does it (grafted) that did nothing for its first two years and now its hardly ever without bloom so age was a factor with her for sure. Maybe try moving it to another location? Maybe there's roots competing with her down below or something. I have Tamora as well but she's a tiny little own root thing. I got her from Rogue Valley Roses last spring and she was the worst one of the bunch when my order arrived. Her stems were yellow and within a few weeks she had lost all but the top few leaves. Somehow she bounced back however. I stuck her in the ground and she's given me 2-3 blooms. But she's still growing, albeit rather slowly. Keep in mind also that grafted roses usually don't have such bushy growth as own root since they are entirely growing from that one stem they are grafted on to. Maybe that's why she seems skimpy compared to your non grafted austins? I worry about growing them on their own roots down here (south fl), but you seem to have had luck with many of them. I have had success with Quietness and she's on her own roots. And Duchess de brabant too, own root. I had Clothilde Soupert but she died. I also have red cracker rose (2 years now) and shes pathetic. She's just three little branches, but she booms a bit even for her small size. I've been waiting for her to take off. She's older than quietness and quietness has towered over her. I got quietness from Chamblee. I like them alot. I also have a Dames de Chennonceau on her own roots that I put in the ground not too long ago and she sent out a monster basal cane that was like 5 feet tall, so I'm thinking she'll do ok. LOL You can always try rooting a cutting of Tamora. Maybe she'll be happier on her own roots. Mine isn't really doing anything so who knows. But worth a shot....See MoreBest med to dark pink rose for abundant blooms
Comments (24)Thanks so much, Judy and Lisa. I was under the impression that Palatine would have the new listing of roses and photos that they will be selling next year, and will begin taking orders at that time (Sept 12). I have read here that it's possible some new Tantau roses will be for sale. I think it was Cynthia (Nippstress) that mentioned this because she had talked with the owners of Palatine. I checked Palatine's site a few days ago, and the old listings were still up. Last year they sold AL for a brief time, and then her photo disappeared from the listings. I don't know what that was all about. I wouldn't mind having another Augusta myself. I tried Hortico several days ago, too, and the whole site was down as far as I could tell. Hortico is where I bought my Augusta several years ago. We'll just have to keep looking, I guess. Diane...See MoreMore Grande Dame
Comments (11)Sara-Ann - Gorgeous!!! I wish mine was fragrant!! No fair!! Well, maybe next y ear the fragrance will come in. Lovely, lovely photos of a wonderful rose!! Mine is done blooming and I did a big prune of it to help it after all the hail. So it's wonderful to see yours!!! :) :) Carol...See MoreGrand Dame in hot & humid ?
Comments (32)Been a busy, busy summer so I've been a bit MIA on the forum and just seeing this. I shovel pruned Perfume Delight this year due to it's horrible bs resistance here in hot, steamy Alabama. I still grow Grand Dame, Peter Mayle & Electron...all about equally bs resistant here...will get some bs in my low spray garden, but not too bad. I'm working to replace my worst bs offenders in an attempt to go no spray. I'm hopeful Grand Dame will be fine without any spraying since it is a favorite rose of mine...much prefer it over Electron or Peter Mayle. Electron blooms at least as much as GD for me (which is a lot), but not much fragrance to my nose and excessively thorny. Peter Mayle has great fragrance and a great cut flower, but not as prolific a bloomer and very tall, stiff, HT habit with blooms mostly up top...GD is very tall, too, but a much prettier bush. I like the old fashioned bloom form of GD, but if you prefer high centered, PM has huge HT type flowers. Electron has big, HT form blooms, as well, but not as huge as PM's. Neither PM or Electron's blooms nod, whereas, GD has some that nod and some that face upward. It took GD a few years to get strong enough canes to support all her blooms...I no longer have to add support for them. Here are all three in September after weeks on end of temps in high 90s/low 100s: Grand Dame Peter Mayle Electron...See Moreirisgal_z9
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