Undercabinet lights or recessed lights for task lighting in kitchen ?
pearl1976
7 years ago
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recessed can task lights in kitchen: white or black trim kit?
Comments (5)dallasbill The original concept for recessed lighting was to get rid of surface mounted fixtures for a minimalist look. Two types of trims were most common for round recessed fixtures. One type was just an open ring and a reflector lamp was installed with its surface flush with the ceiling and trim. This gave a wide distribution of light with lots of glare because the lamp itself was highly visible. The other type of trim, a baffle, was intended to recess the lamp up deeper into the housing and the baffle trim concealed the now exposed interior of the housing. Tucking the lamp up higher cuts off view of the lamp and greatly reduces glare when observing from across the room. These first baffles were a non glossy black to cut down on reflected light since that was the goal of the design. At some point years later someone decided they didn't like black holes in the ceiling when the lights were off and white baffles were created. To light a room with less glare, recessed fixtures are placed at specific distances apart so the cones of light from the reflector type lamps overlap a bit for general lighting. For task and accent lighting the beams of light from individual fixtures may not need to overlap. The formula on how to lay this out is based on the light distribution of the trim and lamp used. Lamps are available with various beam spreads and wattages. Light reflected off of a trim when using a recessed reflector type lamp, creating glare, is not desirable nor useful when the lighting is properly installed. Lack of glare in a well lit room gives an inviting and comfortable feeling to the space. The walls and furnishings reflecting light to your eye no longer have to compete with the much brighter source of light. If a lighting designer wants to call attention to a piece of art, for instance, they may put three times more lumens on it than other nearby objects and your eye will go to it. We don't want anyone to look at recessed ceiling fixtures but you can't ignore glare. People don't tend to understand why some places look so much more inviting than others and lighting plays a big part. People tend to choose well lit rooms with mid range furnishings over poorly lit spaces with higher end furnishings yet not be able to explain why....See MoreRecessed task lighting above cabinet-less counters
Comments (3)thanks! should i worry about "too much light"? there will be a dimmer, but i'd rather not have to have it set at 30% all the time, or something like that. and as for spacing: above a 2'x4' counter, i suppose they should be 2' apart?...See MoreUndercabinet Task Lighting
Comments (2)at1483 In response to your questions: I would like to install hardwired LED undercabinet lights in my kitchen. My main purpose is to use them as task lighting to make sure I have sufficient light to see what I'm doing. Are linear or puck lights better for task lighting? If it's puck lights how do I determine how many I need? - We typically suggest linear lighting for a few reasons, the pucks can create a cone of light - meaning you can get dark spots- low voltage pucks also often cannot be be hardwired and dimmed. Alternatively using a flexible LED strip you can eliminate dark spots by using a single piece of the flex under a cabinet - or row of cabinets if attached to ensure you are getting the most light possible. I'd like to have the option to turn all on at once or be able to only turn on the lights where I need them. So is it better to get motion sensored lights or switch operated? This is a bit difficult to answer- turning lighting off individually will require a system like Honu3421 had described above ( I believe each unit has an on and off switch). As for our lighting - unless we configure a very unnecessarily expensive system each strip or area would require a transformer and wall switch. We like to think that your new lighting will be so great you won't want to turn it off! Plus it is extremely efficient - so you won't be using very much energy! I've read that LED lights should be exposed to as little heat as possible. Does that mean I can't use LEDs in the cabinets next to my gas stove? I have a undercabinet range hood that will vent outside and it has it's own task lighting. You can absolutely use LEDs on cabinets next to your stove - this is something that would most likely vary depending on the manufacturer as well as the products being used (I imagine a light with plastic cover could be potentially a little more hazardous with the heat). Since our products produce no heat at all- they should be bale to withstand the heat without any issues! If you still need help with under cabinet lighting or would like a free quote and layout from our design team you can reach them here: design@inspiredled.com. I highly suggest utilizing the free service as they can help answer any questions you have as well as ensure you have everything you need. Please let me know if you need anything else! -Erica, Inspired LED...See MoreRecessed lighting layout in kitchen off center from task locations
Comments (7)@old1997new We have similar problems...but i think yours is harder to resolve. We designed our island as the centerpeice, with the coffer evenly bordering around the island...then on each end of the island is a 42" fridge, and a 48" range with outside edges aligned. So it was designed to be able to have the "general" can lighting centered on the fridge and the range. To do this, a 3" differnce in location from the lights to the coffer border would be required, but you would never see this difference with given that the lights are 4' from the coffer border. You seem to have a range/upper cabinets which are themselves symmetric, with an island that is offset from them. However, the can lighting looks like it might be located to be symmetric around the island..or maybe just evenly spaced with no reference point? I am pretty particular about this sort of thing, but you have pendent lights to "frame" the island, and I would say those can lights should be located based on the major feature, which is the range. This is just my opinion, and it seems to me like a contractors job is to make you think that the fact that they did it "the right way" no matter how careless they have been. In this case it is hard to make the argument that it is "wrong", but it would have been simple to locate them better with a little bit of thought. Funny story...as they were drilling the 4" holes, they actually messed up the location again. Like...the dude didn't measure to make sure they were on a centerline. Some people just don't care about details...so it is up to you to make sure you get what you want....See Morepearl1976
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