Armstrong Vivero Flooring Issues with IntergiLock Install
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Comments (64)All the problems mentioned above with Armstrong Grand Illusions, I just went through. I had the roasted grain color. It squeaked, popped, and even chipped from such bad popping. When I say chipped, I mean after 3 days there were chips on corners and edges everywhere. I hadn't even moved into the house yet. This was not caused by the installers because I inspected it after it was done. Called the retailer and Armstrong. Armstrong blamed installation and so retialer (whom did not do the isntall) inspected the work and said it was a great job, I had a level subfloor (new home), dry crawl space and they took the issue up with Armstrong. Additionally, the owner of this retailer told me that he has had a lot of complaints with Armstrong and that his solution was to glue all the butt ends together (partial solution). However, after my claim, he has pulled all Armstrong from his stores and took it upon himself to replace all of my flooring with another company. On another note, while my brother was shopping for laminate at Home Depot, the flooring sales person there also said that they have a lot of product complaints with Armstrong/Bruce and that she recommended Pergo. In any case, I chose to go with Lex Flooring's Cottage line. Anyone familiar with them? The retailer told me they have had zero customer complaints with Lex and after looking at it they have the same handscraped planks as Armstrong does but with ana ctualy locking system that works....See MoreWarped flooring: Armstrong Grand Illusions Afzelia L3030
Comments (3)the floor looks very nice. You totally fail to mention how you acclimated this product to your job. Since you say you ordered from a far away reseller you have no idea how it was stored or how it was shipped. The fact that its warped means very little. That is common with longer length boards but it normally straightens out with acclimation. Did you acclimate with boxes open or closed? I understand you have a problem but it may have more to do with your acclimating it than to a 'factory defect'. Like most flooring 99% of the risk is in the installation, so its nice you saved a little money but you have no one to back you up now that a problem occurs....See MoreLuxury Vinyl Planks - Armstrong Vivero or Moduleo Horizon?
Comments (11)I just installed Armstrong Vivero Arbor Orchard in Natural, selected because it has the integrilock click-in install mechansim. 530sf - 2 bedrooms and a laundry hallway. I have never used luxury vinyl, but have college rentals and heard good things. Carpet is NASTY for college rentals. In the past, I've used various levels/price points of laminate, when the subfloor allowed it. The husband and I do the install - mostly him doing the labor, me doing the shopping. I like the finished floor to look as natural as possible (vs just throwing down whatever comes out of the box), so I help with the layouts. (I also LOVE epoxy - garage - for concrete, but am saddened that Home Depot stopped carrying the Rust-Oleum 2 part version that I've used many times.) What I look for in flooring is durability that looks great. College kids think even the low end laminate is real wood, but this cheap stuff lacks durability. For my latest project, I wanted to do the install myself - maybe with the help of my young kids. Prior to learning of Armstrong's Vivero, I was set on US Flooring's Coretec because it seemed to have the best available LVP click-in locking mechanism. My project was delayed and I failed to order the flooring. Then, I found Armstrong's product and the price was easily $3 less per square foot. Plus, I watched the You Tube video where the guy could not close the gaps between the Coretec planks. I figured that if he couldn't do it, neither could a chick with two young kids. So, I prepped the floor - sanded the OSB and began the install - without reading the directions!! My tools in hand were a tapping block made for LVP, carbide utility knife blades, a rubber mallet and shims. Of course, also measuring tapes and L squares etc. Because I failed to read the Armstrong install directions (I did watch a few videos), I installed backwards. Instead of laying the top piece onto the bottom piece, I slid the bottom piece onto the top. This took a lot of finesse and hammering. I failed to hear any "click". The floor was looking awesome, but it seemed to be taking more effort and time than anyone claimed. The husband decided to help. He read the directions and discovered my first issue. I finished one bedroom, doing the install wrong, in 9 hours. This bedroom is 15'x12', plus a closet. I had to go to the store to buy a "pro bar" to tighten the planks together. (The probar damaged the planks, even after taping cardboard around it.) The second bedroom - same size - was installed the correct way and was done in 6 hours. These times include the OSB sanding/clean up. I laid the flooring directly onto the OSB. When installing correctly, where the top is layed onto the bottom, there is definitely a "clicking" noise. Although the correct way to lay the planks takes less time/effort, there are very slight gaps here and there between the planks. When I installed the one bedroom incorrectly, the gaps are non-existent. These gaps are very slight and resemble a wood floor when the boards slightly shrink. I don't think the "gaps" are a big enough issue to warrant the extra time/effort to install. When installing following the directions, the pro bar was needed only on the final edges of the room. The planks do not move nor make any noise when walking on them. This is my new non-epoxy flooring!! My only complaint is that 1 length (48") is not enough. With a 15' long room, I ended up with tiny 1" slivers inside the closet. There was no way I was starting a row over once I got to the end. Using a 12-16" starting piece was problematic in every 1" sliver row. I hope that more lengths become available. The planks were difficult to cut, so I am hoping this equates to fantastic surface durability. The carbide blades did mar the surface (and could remove a finger with no effort), so installing with the recommended titanium blades might make the install quicker/easier. It is true that young kids can help with the install! I wouldn't trust them with the sharp blades, but they can definitely "click" the pieces together....See MoreArmstrong Luxe Plank Rigid Core on Sloped Floor?
Comments (1)We couldn't feel perfectly comfortable giving you an "exact" answer to this question unless we can see how bad the slope really is... The Armstrong material you're referring to is a floating clickable floor, which means that there is always going to be some movement to the floor, especially if the subfloor isn't "flat" (not "level"); here at The Couture Floor Company, we can't stress enough, just how important a sound subfloor is (for any material.) A floating floor system allows you to feel all the discrepancies underneath it. Generally speaking, varying high points and dips in a subfloor, (like that of a basement slab) would be worse for a floating floor system than a small slope, that is still flat. If there are varying high and low points, especially with the large plank you chose, walking from one spot to another, enough times, can cause the seams to come apart, and most likely break. If your subfloor is "flat," it probably won't be a huge issue. But here are some helpful links with more information on subfloors and floating flooring systems. If you still need some more advice, feel free to send us an e-mail or call at 1-855-914-TCFC. http://www.thecouturefloorcompany.com/what-is-a--floating-floor--.html http://www.thecouturefloorcompany.com/the-importance-of-a-sound-subfloor-.html http://www.thecouturefloorcompany.com/home.html...See MoreCarpet One Columbia
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