Help on Shower Door Install- uneven tile
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Mongoct & others, I need your help! SLC uneven & so is shower pan
Comments (1)I forged on. The Strata Mat is down and looks pretty good. I used Laticrete 254 thinset. I will leave the shower as is. It will drain and that is the main thing. I plan on having a sliding door, and the lower end will be where the stationary part is. So I think the shower door that slides past will be up a scant amount from the stationary door but...oh well. I don't think it will be a problem....See MoreShower Tile Problems - Standing Water, Uneven, and Slope
Comments (6)[Crosspost .[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/tile-installation-nightmare-dsvw-vd~4745887) You never responded about Your Contract. Lets say it is out of spec/standards Do you have a Permit a real contractor and A Contract? what do you hope to gain by posting this on multiple forums? If you have done all the proper paperwork and have documentation you even then may not have a case. Most everywhere in residential Namerica tile projects are not inspected (other than a shower base or pan & drain ) nor have any local standards to follow. This is why homeowners like you need to document things, get a contract that spells out tile standards that are non existant at the local level. If you have none of that you left yourself unprotected and are learning a hard lesson....See MoreNewly installed tile is uneven
Comments (13)As Sophie points out, this is an install + tile problem. It is a complete redo. Is this DIY or did you pay someone to do this? Long thin tiles will POOR off-set (really should be 1/3 off-set....yours are closer to 1/4 or less which is not good enough) and grout lines that are far too small. If you add that to bowed tiles (I would say all of them are bowed...which is why you are seeing sooooo much lippage) and a poor install without the proper mortar bed and without the use of a leveling system = perfect storm = the situation you are looking at in the photos. As Sophie has already asked, who sourced the tiles? Who decided on the grout lines? S/he who is responsible for these two issues will have to pay for the replacement materials. Who decided on the mortar/thinset option? Who made decisions about subfloor prep to achieve "flat"? Was it paid for? Who decided on the stagger-pattern? Who made the decision to work with (or without) a leveling system? The answers to these questions will tell you who's responsible for the cost of LABOR (which is roughly HALF the price of the job). If this is NOT DIY, then you have some serious conversations ahead of you with your General Contractor and his/her choice of tile setter. If there is NO GC - meaning you are the GC - you will need to speak directly with the tile setter and decide the level of "fault" with this install. Please answer a few of our questions and well help out a bit more....See Moreuneven tile in shower
Comments (26)Here's the deal, if homeowners would understand this one thing, it would alleviate many of the problems that occur with tile installation, and other things as well. Multiple people are involved in the decision regarding the tile selection and NO ONE talks to the actual tile contractor before the final selection is made. Involve your craftsmen/women! If you hire a GC, one of the most important considerations should be who their subs are (qualifications) and how they involve them in the design and selection process. That model should be in place for all remodeling and construction projects. In this case you received your information from the tile supplier and the GC/project manager, but it appears that the actual installer was never involved. You should be meeting with and involving them before you even make a selection on tile as they should be able to advise on expectations, "great look but here is what this requires... "(which may also be helpful for the GC as he/she will need to make sure other preparatory work, or pay the tile contractor to do it (substrate, etc.) is in order to achieve the desired tile installation. As an old timer in the field, I recall many years ago getting drawings from a designer, a selection sheet from a tile distributor, and a schedule from a GC. I would get to the job and say "OK, so here's what you can do and here's what you can expect. Here's how we can alter this based on this or that consideration". And then we would have to decide how to proceed from there. Major mistake and one of the biggest problems facing the industry today. IF you involve the tile contractor early on and are equipped to ask the pertinent questions, you will know a great deal before the actual selection and installation occurs. What you also might learn, is that that sub contractor is not up to the job. Better before than after. Sorry for the rave but we are passionate about the tile trade and the impact on consumers like you. You did not select the wrong tile. It was an inadequate installation. It did have challenges to plan for by a real pro. Final note: Happy to hear that you have a stand up GC willing to make it right (and note the comment from Creative about the damage to the water-proofing if tile is removed). Stuff happens but if in the end they deliver, than all is well. Good luck with your project....See Moremillworkman
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