Your new dawn looks much more pink than mine?

But I really love pink so I actually like how they (ND and VQ) almost look like the same bush, yet they don't.

It's 52F here. I am still moving roses around. Give it a lot of water after planting, and keep watering it everyday for a while.

Should I wait until the blooms are done? Idk if mine is a repeater or not? I wonder if it turns out that it IS a repeater, will moving it shock it so much that it turns into a one time bloomer? Is that even possible?

The word "repeat" is often misused for roses. There are those roses that give you a flush of flowers in the spring and then another in mid summer and then another towards the fall and if the weather is fine, yet another one. These are true repeaters. But some roses expend a lot of energy just making one impressive display of blooms, usually climbers and have to wait until they have the leaves and energy to make another. These types of roses can put out another excellent flush of flowers or just a scattered few. Nurseries often call the scattered few flush as a repeat . But is it really just one main flush.

New Dawn falls into the category of a few scattered after one main flush. To get a really good second display with New Dawn you cut back the rose hard after the first flush give it a lots of fertilizer and you will get a much better flush of flowers. Moving does nothing to prevent how the rose blooms. It may only get even with you when you move it and sulk for a year making only a few flowers.

Great minds think alike! I also planted VQ to co-mingle a bit with my ND. :) I think the difference in colour and bloom form is just enough to keep it interesting. Regarding transplanting now vs. waiting, I would let it finish its flush and then move it if it's an established plant. However, your cool temps would be perfect if it's fairly young.

I'm also a newbie to general rose growing, but have had 75yr old ND for years and have now transplanted them multiple times, most recently this Spring. With the help of everyone on this forum it was very successful. I got as much root ball as possible and dragged them on a tarp to their new location, having already dug and amended the new (huge) hole. I water in after adding ~half the soil and again at the end. I also make a little berm around it to keep the water from flowing off. Lots of compost, but no fertilizer. I watered well until established. Two of the transplants didn't miss a beat, and the other lost its first set of leaves to shock, but

I got cut off there! Anyway, the third on is now putting out blooms full time.

Here's my post: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/3767293/how-much-root-to-transplant

I found in my experience that if you move a rose, the rose will not grow much that season. I did it many times and that rose will slow its growth. Maybe it is trying to root itself again. It is only the following year that the rose will be growing new canes etc. That could just be because we have a shorter growing season up here.

I accidentally linked to the wrong post above, but corrected it. As of today, all three of my newly transplanted ND have thrown out huge new canes. Please post pics whatever you decide.

Tysm vaporvac!! That is very encouraging! Mine is only a year old and still really small and it's been unusually cool for the past week and it rained heavily for the first half of the day so I think this would be an ideal time to get to work on that!! I don't want to fuss with it too much once it starts to turn into the monster I hear of, so I figure if I place along my hideous chain link fence I can let it go wild! Plus it will help to deter the neighborhood dogs from coming up and pooping on my lawn >:( so thank you for your input that helps to know someone who just did this themselves !!

I'd wait after the blooms are done then move it. I have to move a Carefree Wonder rose very soon due to purchased a bigger riding lawn mower, needed a wider pathway entrance to a garden shed.

You're very welcome, although as you can read from my post, I was encouraged by others on this site! I actually think the move reinvigorated them somehow. Be sure to prep the hole first, get as much root with soil as possible and water in as you go to avoid drying and air pockets. Also keep watering after. Since you're having a first flush, it will probably take a bit to bloom again. Hopefully you'll get some rebloom this season. Don't worry. It sounds like perfect weather for doing it.

I noticed your fence is 70' long! That could accommodate a couple of ND. I wanted to let you know that they root really easily. I now have 5 plants from the original two by merely pegging a cane under the soil and placing a rock above to hold it in place. It will eventually root and can grow large roots if you wait. Then just cut the umbilical cord and plant it elsewhere!

Good luck and wear long gloves. :)

Wait so you're saying when the canes grow really long to snap one in place and push it into the ground and it will develop roots?

That's what I'm saying! The one I transplanted this year had already grown quite large; one other was teeny a year ago and the other was "just right". All are making big canes and nice new plants.

I also am growing them horizontally, along a LONG balustrade. I really think ND is best grown this way for ease. People seem to hate it as it's cumbersome to dead-head and prune when growing upright. You'll see it's also really nice when the canes fall over the fence and
are seen from the other side. I often push them over so I don't have to
deal with such a crush of canes.

I moved Carefree Wonder yesterday, it was an easy job, the root ball wasn't too big, planted 2 yrs ago, I watered it very well, there is no damage on the blooms, still blooming as it has never moved. :-) I will keep watering it for the next month.

I rooted a few ND from cuttings last fall in a pot, and planted them next to my non- repeating NDs. It's very easy to root.