Die out of tall fescue every June
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Take it to the Next Level: NC Tall Fescue Lawn Care
Comments (4)If you are going Organic, you really can not over do your applications. Lawn Restore is a good product, but you can also use Corn Meal or Cracked Corn, Soy Bean Meal and Milorganite (5-2-0 with 4% iron) to give you some diversity. Used Coffee Grounds can be used, if you can find a good source. In the fall, you can mulch mow leaves others throw away curb side and add lots of organic matter for free to your yard. It usually take 3-4 passes to make them disappear. Your neighbors will think you are crazy, but you can not deny the results. I applied 350lbs of organics / 1000 ft2 last year. Hoping to hit 500+ this year. Now for the clay, you can use a soil conditioner and wetting agent to loosen it up. This with the organics will open up the soil over a few years. Humic Acid, Dried Kelp and Black Strap Molasses can help energize the microbes in the soil and get things moving quickly in the spring. NC Agronomic agency soil tests are free and get you in the ball park. Although, once you dial the soil in, you may want to use a lab that gives you more details so you can tweak the other elements in your soil (Boron, Copper, Manganese, Zinc and Iron) Using lime (whether Calcitic or Dolomitic) is important and which one you use will help you with your pH and Calcium to Magnesium ratio (7:1 is what you are shooting for). Calcitic is usually 5x the price, but has 5x the Calcium. S http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg0311011017714.html Lastly, NCState as a NTEP testing site for grasses. If you want the best results, using the best grass for this area is key. Typically the big box stores are not the best place. Online you can order exactly what you want. http://www.ntep.org/tf.htm Just read the results for the NC testing center and you can get an idea of which varieties you will want. In the end, you are probably not too far off. Since you enjoy it, adding a few more pieces to your schedule should improve your results....See MoreDefiance XRE Tall Fescue
Comments (2)Don't know about those, but I expect the problem is common to tall fescue and not indicative of particular varieties....See MorePennington Tall Fescue vs KBG (Mass, zone 7)
Comments (16)>>KBG was less drought tolerant than TTTF. It is, very much less drought tolerant. KBG will show wilting long before TTTF will. KBG is more drought resistant than TTTF. It simply goes dormant, waiting for the rain to return. TTTF, left dry, will eventually just up and die. So will KBG, but 1/4" of water every 2 weeks is enough to keep the roots alive. Dormancy can continue for 12 weeks, but losses will start to mount. 8 is the usual maximum given, although I've seen it go a lot longer than that with that incidental watering every now and again. That having been said, my established KBG has been watered twice this year. So much of this is related to how you treat the grass and how you treat your soil. I've pushed mine to very high organic matter levels, which store water like nobody's business and won't let it go easily to evaporation (but a root can exert enough ionic pull to grab the water with no problems). I attached pictures of my lawn (follow the link to my blog as you can see the entire history if you wish to peruse back that far). It's hardly shabby, but this is not a good year. We've ping-ponged between bone dry and soaking wet. >>I water just enough to keep it alive. From March to May it was absolutely beautiful deep dark green but right now it's much lighter and even tan in some spots. Ditto. Keep in mind, I'm somewhat north of you, just a wee little bit. I'm not sure if KBG would be a good choice for North Carolina. >> I will need to overseed this fall so would overseeding KBG into the TTTF lawn be a good idea? Would this eventually lead to a full KBG lawn? I'm open to ideas. The two don't argue with each other directly, so that's not an issue. The KBG, if well-fed (we're talking 4 to 6 pounds of nitrogen per thousand square feet per year) will fill in holes as the TTTF dies out from age. That process isn't fast; there are certainly thirty year old TTTF tufts out there, I've seen some. Growth rates will differ, almost certainly, so that may drive you crazy. Color is going to differ, and the look of the grasses is very different as well. I never felt that tri-mix (fescue, rye, KBG) was a good choice for anybody, but they do that to get one grass to grow in an area, at least. Again, I'm not sure about KBG that far south. Lexington, from the map, feels like it should be OK-but-borderline, and your altitude (800 feet+) speaks well for putting in KBG. Current temperatures and overall average temperatures are fine for it, and KBG when established in good soil should stay green all winter (mine does up here). Rainfall levels are perfectly acceptable. By the way, you have rainfall moving in. Best grab an umbrella for later this evening. If you absolutely forced me to pick three modern cultivars, I'd go with Midnight, Prosperity, and Boutique. You can freely substitute Midnight II or Midnight Star for Midnight, they're all close enough. Those are three extremely dark cultivars, so consider that before you do this. When mature, they'll have that thundery dark green look that my lawn has in spring and fall (all grasses lighten in summer).. Also, tolerance for weather their first year isn't as good as it will be later on (true of any grass), so watering the first summer will be required. I never recommend dormancy the first year if it can be avoided, and if it can't, keep it short. The grass doesn't have the root depth and resources it will later on. Here is a link that might be useful: My Blog, With Photos...See MoreTall Fescue Died (Summer 2020)
Comments (4)https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/carlisle/17013/august-weather/335346?year=2020&view=list I'm using that as the historical rainfall for Carslile, which is far enough from me that it would be in another country over in Europe. In terms of significant rainfall, you've had 0.71" of rain on Saturday, August 28th...and a third of an inch on Friday, August 7th. September rainfall so far has been much better, with 3 rainy days and 3 dry ones, but even so, the 3 rainy days were good, fair, and fair, summing to very good. Other than that, there's been no rainfall that's enough to do anything other than keep the roots barely ticking. I'd actually expect your lawn to look like that at the moment and I'm going to advise, "Don't Panic." Effectively, the wakeup call only went out on August 28th, and the lawn is in, "Let's not take any chances" mode. Dormant grasses are low on energy and breaking dormancy costs a lot of energy. Grasses can usually break dormancy once. Going back into dormancy a second time means severe losses. I'd expect significant recovery, after a longer-term dormancy like this, once temperatures start to drop a bit and the soil has been damp for a longer period of time. This might be the one instance where, when it starts to cool and recover, where I would water if it began to get dry once again. Just enough to assure that the lawn doesn't stress. And make certain to feed with any good synthetic or organic food as per bag instructions in October because it's going to need the energy, and again in November when you do your last mow for the year--winterization of that lawn for energy storage for winter will be critical. Next year, feed on Memorial Day (and not before--spring feedings tap energy out of the roots and reduce summer performance, plus reduce the grass' ability to go dormant) to armor it for summer, and otherwise irrigate or not as you wish. I don't water the lawn either. Cumberland County is heavy agriculture. Your overall soil is actually pretty good, so I wouldn't expect that your soil is awful, or terribly thin, or that underlying shale is too much of an issue. If you have rocky soil (reasonably normal, I certainly have rocks in mine!) or are at the top of a hill (I'm the third property from the top of a two hundred foot, mile-long hill that's a billion years old), it's really of no great consequence. The sprigs I see doing well (cough--K-31 fescue--cough) are the things that are literally impossible to send into dormancy and that will probably survive nuclear war, any pandemic, the Zombie Apocalypse, and still be around, happily green, when the Sun turns into a white dwarf....See MoreAlexander Crump
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