Help! What does "rough" mean re: plumbing?
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Comments (12)I am reading some of these replies and I can't believe my eyes. The pipes are extending out of the concrete, ergo they must have been installed before the slab was poured, right? The plumbing code requires that all pipes above the floor must be properly supported by means of holes drilled through the studs, pipe hangers attached to the studs or installing proper blocking and bracing to the studs. Common sense should tell you that if the plumber installed the pipes in question before the slab was poured, it was also days or perhaps weeks before the framer installed the studs. Pray tell, how could the plumber install any pipe above grade and meet the code requirement for support if there is nothing to support it to? Perhaps we should use sky hooks or something. Taking this discussion to the next level. Any GC or Drywall installer knows good and well that they cannot begin the drywall until the plumbing, electrical, mechanical and in some jurisdictions fire inspection is complete and signed off. Anyone with half a brain could see a small room framed out with plumbing extending through the floor and figure out it is a bathroom or laundry room. No plumbing inspector would ever sign off on that without a proper stack-out completion. Now, if the original contract only called for a plumbing rough-in then that is what the plumbing gave you and that is what you were originally billed for. If you then come back and say you are now ready for the stack-out, then the plumber is well within his/her right to charge you labor for that phase. In fact, they should not only charge labor but they should charge extra for cutting into the sheet rock. The problem is not with the plumber, it is with whoever the dummy was that gave the ok for them to hang the drywall before the stack out was done. Taking that to the next step, no doubt the drywall installers were tripping over the pipes extending up through the floor. Why didn't they question the lack of a stack out? Hold my money back under these circumstances and I guarantee when we get finished in court I will have my money and a bunch more and you can be sure that the GC and drywall contractor will never repeat that mistake again....See MoreWhat does this mean? Pattern, sock, help
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7 years ago
PROJoseph Corlett, LLC
7 years ago"Rough" in this sense means the stuff behind the walls, but that can be critical when you've got tile going up on a wall that has wall-mounted faucets. If the valve isn't placed perfectly plumb, the spout won't be level. If the valves aren't spaced exactly, two adjacent valves may have different tile spacing. Of course they have to be level to each other. Ask me how I know:
Jillius
7 years agoBoth rough-in plumbing and rough-in electrical are everything that needs to happen before the insulation and drywall goes up. "Rough" is just a specific stage during construction -- rough plumbing happens after framing and before drywall.
What your rough plumbing will look like depends on the job. You mentioned a utility sink and prep sink. In really simple terms, when sink plumbing rough in is done, you'll see what looks like three different pipes running through the floor/ceiling/wall and ending sticking out of the floor/wall roughly where the sinks will go with caps on the end of the pipes. Usually for each sink, there'll be one big pipe (the vent/drain), and two little ones (hot water and cold water).
After the wall board goes in, you will no longer be able to see the pipes snaking through the walls/floors/ceiling. You'll see only the three capped pipe ends that stick out, like so:
On the far right in that picture, you'll see the rough-in plumbing for the bathroom sink. The big white pipe is the drain/vent. The little red pipe is the hot water line. The little blue pipe is the cold water line. The pipes aren't always those colors (for example, if you have metal pipes rather than PVC, the hot/cold lines would be copper), but the one-big-and-two-small-pipes configuration is pretty standard for sinks.
I have no idea what kind of plumbing your heaters might need. That didn't come up in our remodel.
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