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Your most tough, healthy, no-spray roses?
Comments (57)In no spray gardens east of San Francisco, california where the soil is heavy clay, and the conditions favor p.m. over blackspot during most of the green season. -until June or Autumn, when rain or watering the foliage will bring on blackspot. Rust is rare here. I ignore light coverings of p.m. and get rid of any rose that defoliates from disease, those roses included: Lundy Lane yellow' Ducher' the worst rose for p.m. it defoliated more than 90% of its leaves which of course stopped it from bloomming. Borderline, moderate p.m. during wet months but never defoliates 'Mutabilis' The best: China Fabvier' very healthy, floriferous and a bright color. Le Vesuve' such a gorgeous plant. Old Garden Tea roses, and Tea-Noisettes; white: Westside Road Cream Tea' as fragrant as Ducher but far more resistant to powdery mildew. Clean most of the year, here. Lamarque Mme. Alfred Carriere ( best in full sun, small plants are borderline for p.m. in cool wet months) Reve d' Or Crepescule Marachal Niel' ( borderline when a baby, but has good disease resistance now) Marie Van Houtte Mrs. Dudley Cross Duchess de Brabant (borderline for p.m. as a young plant, now that she is older, still gets some p.m. but never defoliates from it) Souveinir de Pierre Notting (not my favorite yellow Tea, as it forms an ugly brown rufff before the petals fall off a bloom) Etoille de Lyon ( a great beauty in my op.) Mrs. B.R. Cant ( one of the fastest growing Teas I've ever grown along with- Monsieur Tillier' Mme. Berkeley (very healthy here, and one of the 3 most beautiful Tea roses I think) Maman Cochet and the white sport Lady Hillingdon (some p.m. easy to ignore with that great vast wealth of apricot bloom.) Paul Nabonnanad Tea roses I'd avoid here, these defoliated from disease or were thickly covered with p.m. most of the year. Alliance Franco Russe ( covered with a thick coat of p.m. as a young plant, if you live where conditions are hotter this is a gorgeous Tea. ) Georgetown Tea (p,m. on all leaves, thickly. H.P.s Reine des Violettes Comtesse de Chabrillant' such a pretty H.P. Arrilagga ( I love this rose, a big buxom beauty, light pm easy to overlook) Glendora (some b.s. not enough to be a concern) It does shattter rapidly in hot weather but has plenty of side buds which makes this a non-issue on the plant, but not a long lasting vase flower) Grandmothers Hat (is this a perfect pink H.P.? or what? fragrance, disease resistance and a long bloom season with quick re-bloom for its' class. --- Polyantha Mlle. Cecille Brunner and all her sports. Borderor Leonie Lamesch Marie Pavie katherine Zeimet and her offspring 'Popcorn' perle d'Or Musk roses R. moschata Temple Musk both have clean foliage most of the year. I cannot detect any fragrance off Temple Musk, which I think is odd as I find R. moschata to be very fragrant. Hybrid Musk Callisto such a pretty yellow rose and very fragrant too! Cornelia my favorite pink H.M. very fragrant as well. Lavender Freindship Queen of the Musks' fat red stained rosebuds stand out against the open creamy white rose blossoms. a wowser of a rosebush, gets huge here, 7' tall x 6' wide, a good rose for a tall hedge. Pernetiana roses. Etoille de Feu Mari Dot that Penardananda rose I can never remember the full name of , cantaloupe hues and very fragrant. Gruss an Coberg Irene Chirucca Borderline : President Herbert Hoover better in a hot and dry climate, c. 10%-20% b.s here during the b.s. season. Very fragrant Bourbon S.D.L.M., but needs full sun here or won't open well. Pauls Early Blush' on rootstock this has genormous blooms even on a small plant. starts blooming when the Tea roses do. (Bourbons that flunked the no spray test: M.I.P and its pink sport M.me . Ernst Calvat. Alba white rose of York Maidens Bluch Gallica Belle Sultane Species R. californica laden with sexy pollen, huge flakes of it, fragrant and long blooming. R. palustris Hybrid Tea roses. Mme. Caroline Testout some p.m. in the spring. La France Mme. Jules Bouche ( I adore this white rose) Radiance' and all her clan. Mrs. Herbert Stevens The rest Souvenir something Denoyal. nearly clean the whole growing season, fragrant and lovely, I did not love a red rose until I saw this at Luannes and nabbed one. The climber called 'Sombruiel' Albertine Ramblers The Garland Pauls Himalayan Musk' a musk to climb a mountain. Veilchenbleu is more resistant to pm. than Rose Marie Viand' well that's a start, I have c. 200 no spray rose names from the area from my days as a volunteer at a local no spray public rose garden. Hope your sister finds a low-care rose to love, Lux...See MoreRidiculously Healthy Roses here in zone 4
Comments (118)Hi, Kelly & Vapor, @celeste/NH Thank you for your ideas! i checked my friend’s location and she has humidity, too, so I am reworking my list. Rugosa are good. Kordes are great for no BS in humidity. Do you know what Old Garden Roses are best for zone 4 and humidity? @Kelly Tregaskis Collova Earth Angel & Madame Anisette are zone 5, but you have grown them in your zone 4. Are you zone 4a or 4 b? Where in your yard can you grow them? Maybe if you grow them on south side of home it keeps them warmer since they are not nade for your zone? However, climate has warmed all over and temps may not be getting as low as we are zoned, either. Also, did the cold winter get your Olivia? Olivia does really well in humidity. I have humidity & she gets no BS. Princess Alexandria of Kent gets BS, so I will not recommend for her. The DA roses list in my post above are zoned 4, but maybe DA are just not very hardy? Lichfield Angel, though, may be their most hardy rose-I have her and she grows no matter what where I have lost other roses. Yes, I heard less fragrant DA newer ones-thanks. Maybe if planted on south side home they will keep warmer in zone 4....See MoreHealthy Modern Roses For The Mid-Atlantic?
Comments (27)I once grew TROPICANA in a coastal Virginia garden and cannot imagine doing so without the assistance of fungicides. Olga is right. No spray = 100% defoliation by mid June. I'm having good results with the following cultivars in my mother's no spray, zone 7b coastal Virginia garden: Cramoisi Superieur (China) - good BS resistance but watch out for powdery mildew Duchesse de Brabant (Tea) - so far nie bulletproof Belinda's Dream (Shrub) - same as DdB. Gorgous flowers. Madame Joseph Schwartz (Tea) - same as DdB Moore's Striped Rugosa is turning out to be a disappointment. Not nearly as resistant as previously thought and being a hybrid rugosa, I can't spray it. Frustrating. Too early to tell for Marie d'Orleans (Tea)....See MoreNeed your input on Kordes roses
Comments (42)Altorama Ray, I'm still here just waiting for spring, lol. I lost quite a few roses over this winter so I'm evaluating what to do next. I'll definitely be downsizing my garden though, it's getting to be a bit too much work and the roses struggle for lack of sun. Most of my Austins did well but I lost quite a few of the Kordes roses. Madame Anisette is really tough and Summer Romance came through great as did Earth Angel but most are struggling. I even had a lot of damage to my laurel, rhodi's and holly this year. I'm starting to plant more hydrangeas since they seem to like my particular gardening environment much better, especially the panicles. Not quite roses though :-( I hope you fared better in your end of the state. Your roses are breathtaking. Sharon...See Morevasue VA
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