Clementina Carbonieri help?
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7 years ago
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Comments (8)Your Clementina looks extrememly healthy- maybe she has reverted to some long lost ground cover relative- (kidding). I love this rose- so fragrant and I love these colors together. Makes me happy just looking at it :) I have several roses like this- I have Dragons Blood which I have been babying, and it had a bloom open a few days ago- it is now lying on the ground the bloom is so heavy for the little stem it sits on. Marleah...See MoreClementina Carbonieri?
Comments (15)Just a word about 'Duchesse d'Auerstaedt': comments I hear this rose in the U.S. suggest she doesn't get that big there. I don't know whether we have a different DdA here in Italy or whether my plant's being grafted is critical, but my DdA could not be made to fit on an obelisk that size without cruel cutting back. My plant is currently about 7'x15', that's after a robust spring pruning and without pampering in the way of fertilizers and amendments. It may be that, as in the case of 'Maréchal Niel', having a grafted vs. an ownroot plant makes all the difference. I have 'Crépuscule' (grafted) and have seen 'Lady Hillingdon, Cl.', and both of them, in my opinion, would also get far too large to fit on your obelisk. (Sorry, Jeri!) My 'Crépuscule' is about 8'x12', and I understand LH gets up to about 15'. Would they be significantly smaller ownroot? I don't know about WAR. I would like comments from California gardeners about my own suggestion, the Hybrid Musk 'Cornelia'. She might be more in scale with the obelisk and is a most beautiful rose, with small flowers in sprays of a kind of strawberry pink and a lovely fragrance. 'Cornelia' has a lax habit and would be easy to train, I think. N.B. I think you might be able to force 'Clementina Carbonieri' to climb an obelisk. The trick would be to plant densely foliaged small shrubs (3'-4' tall) around the base of the obelisk, obliging Clementina to send long canes straight up to reach the sun. I know this because I did it. It was accidental in my case: I had too many plants and not enough room, and didn't foresee just how large everything would get in a few years. Melissa...See More'Clementina Carbonieri' Please tell me about..
Comments (19)I'm just south of Jeri in the coastal belt (inland from Venice Beach) and I've also had 3 unsuccessful attempts with baby ownroot C.C. It's actually quite chilly in my garden even tho it's southern California. We get bouts of damp moldy conditions & ocean breezes thruout the year. I have experienced a lot of failures with very young Teas & Chinas due to this. I've also realized how difficult windy conditions are for growing plants, particularly roses. But, this year I discovered a trick - by accident, of course. I have a little side porch that faces south with a very low small concrete landing and a low wall. It's so hot & dry against this wall that almost nothing grows here except for lavendar & germander. Herbs enjoy growing in a large pot on the concrete stoop. I recently stuck small ownroot VIntage bands in this pot. The bands arrived just as we were going out of town so I stuck them quickly in the pot so they didn't die while we were gone, and of course, I forgot about them until a month or so later, when I realized that all these tiny roses had taken off superquick, faster than any spot in my garden probably because of the heat & sun reflecting off the walls, and the shelter from the ocean breeze. So this area is now my ideal nursery setup for bands, and now, I'm having very good luck with several roses that have repeatedly failed here. As for CC, I finally got the 4th one going by putting it in a pot on this stoop -- it's an absolutely beautiful tea: dramatic dark foiage and lovely muted orangey-salmon flowers. I'm going to plant it out this spring....See MoreMme Lambard and Clementina - how big?
Comments (11)Ulp, thanks -- I'm just going to have to move Madame Lambard then. I do have another spot which will work, and it's not too late. I'm so glad I checked. I thought it might be a big one, but that's not what I was reading. You really saved me a lot of problems a year or two from now. Anyone have any ideas about Clementina Carbonieri? If it doesn't rain tonight or early tomorrow, I'll be planting in the morning. Campanula, Austins often do get bigger here in California, so I went with the larger end of the size ranges I found. If they grow a little larger yet, I'll still be okay. It isn't all of them that do this. I'm actually pleased that Cweathersby reported a larger size for Molyneaux. Two feet sounds too small, at least where these roses will be sited. Sherry, my Anna Olivier comes from a cutting from Jackie's plant, which is both huge and ancient, something like a hundred years old. I'm pretty sure it cannot be the Bermuda one. Rosefolly...See MoreBuford_NE_GA_7A
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