Kerdi Shower Part Three
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curbless shower: drain and Kerdi questions
Comments (11)I have built two curbless showers with in the past year and a half. Both where built using Ditra, Kerdi and Red Guard. I have been having more and more clients ask for trench style drains and have spend about 8 months researching these beauties. Quick Drain USA has a nice channel (trench) drain with excellent tech help and a wonderful website. ACO now imports to North America from the UK and I have found that their drain can fit on top of a Schulter drain rough in (this can not be done without modifying the stock unit and I'm sure it will void any warranty). All that said I should have much more answers to this specific question in roughly 3 months time. The more I look at the trench drains and the more we explore the options it creates it's no wonder the channel drain is the hottest look of any new shower. As far a a nice clean looking curbless shower with a simple Kerdi Drain the entire bathroom needs to be waterproofed. Toilets should not be placed too close to the shower entry because a typical floor mount toilet is the biggest weak link in a wetroom floor. A better option is installing a wall mount toilet or small covered curb (i.e. pony wall, glass block wall, frameless glass on low curb) that separates the toilet location from the wet zone. Make sure you pipe your new curbless with at least a 2" drain line (with properly sized vent line) your design and polumbing package might need a 3" drain line so even though you want the new channel drain you may need to install a standard drain in addition to the floor drain. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks - Push your builder or tile guy to research harder. Be prepared for extra costs. Framing changes, concrete work and structural engineers may need to be used. I designed my last two around standard framing and raised the transition from the hallway to the bathroom to 3/4" - 1" (Solid hardwood reducer at doorway) and pitched everything back to a single Kerdi drain....See Moreshould i kerdi a combination tub/shower?
Comments (7)and have a GC who i have just introduced to the world of kerdi Welcome to my world! I just got a STACK of Kerdi CD's (the ones that come with the drains) from Bryant Bouchard (the guy in the streaming video on Schluter's website) to hand out to contractors I talk to. I've converted several up here who like using tile for their showers, but are sick and tired of the tile guys they've used doing a poor job. It seems to give them a new feeling of confidence in spec'ing tile showers again....See MoreThree Day Flood Tests - Kerdi or Hydro Ban
Comments (54)These forums are for people looking the learn. Looking for answers. You waste a lot of effort keeping tabs on me and you only further my cause. Every time you post you keep the thread active. The search engines monitor this activity and rank it even higher. Thank you Alice. Please keep after me. Maybe point out my poor grammar or sentence structure. Flood testing your showers is so important. Look at the shear number of threads in these pages with people in tough spots. Families grinding it out every day and then are faced to repair a "Crappy" job - when they where looking for "Turn Key" home and maxed out their lending to do so. It's not fair. No No No. I'm bring awareness to a code required inspection. Not a Water Test. But a 24 - 72 hour flood test that is inspected by the city. Code. Fact. Look it up. How many "Flood Tests" have you seen mentioned in these pages? It's not the fun stuff. It's not shinny? It does not come in "Off White" or "Bright White". It's boring. It holds up the job. It costs more. Things can go wrong and then cost more again. Why talk about it? BECAUSE IT IS A CODE REQUIRED STEP and one that protects not only you but the people you sell your home to. Kids bathe there. Think about it. I'm sorry if it is not "Cyber Space Friendly" but the system is broken and the proof is behind every black piece of Silicone... You might be breathing it right now. You baby might sleep up against that wall. Think about it. Do more. It's easy. Just work harder. My thoughts, John Whipple...See MoreMarble Walk-in Shower - Kerdi Shower Pan?
Comments (8)When you said that the labor is ALOT more time consuming, does that mean you have to be more careful cutting and setting the tiles due to the "less forgiving material"? That's part of it. When it comes to stone, especially polished stone, if it's not perfect, you'll see it, and you'll feel it. I've said many times it's all in the reflection, because reflections don't lie. Look at the picture above of the reflection in the shower wall tile. See how the reflection is continuous from one tile to the next? If the tile isn't set perfectly flat, that reflection will be broken all to hell. That takes alot of time (as well as alot of skill) to get it that perfect. I don't mean to be tooting my own horn here. I'm trying to help you understand why the need for the extra time, and therefore, the added expense. Just because someone can set tile, doesn't necessarily mean they're competent to set stone. what marble was used? Any sense of the cost of materials? The white is carrara, and although I'd know the name if I heard it, I can't remember the name of the grey marble mosaics. As for cost, the carrara isn't much (as marble goes!)-- maybe 6-7.00 a foot. The chair rali, pencil liner, and mosaic listello, on the other hand, are a different story. Each chair rail and pencil liner is about 22.00 a piece, and the mosaic listello's 32.00 a foot. so for every linear foot of that wainscot, the price is 76.00. This is not exactly an economy bathroom! LOL I know the greymosaics weren't cheap, either, and they're also used on the floor for the "dots" as well as that piece on the wall....See MoreRelated Professionals
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