Doors? Windows? Any existing plumbing, any DWV, in any of the walls, or stacked below? Any N/S/E/W orientation? Mongo

I guess a big part of why we picked that location for the water closet was because there was already a window in there (room would not be dark) and because there is enough adjacent wall for a pocket door to travel into. Also because the plumbing could not be heard if the toilet is flushed at night. It's not exactly set in stone though since this wall does not currently exist and we aren't married to any drawings we've come up with thus far. Relocating the washer and dryer is a long answer. When I put in the doorway to the master bedroom I made sure to buy a door big enough for the washer and dryer to fit through. They absolutely must move out of the garage. As-is the dryer vents through over 20' of flex duct with two 45 degree bends and a 90. The washer drain and water lines run underneath the floor of the dining room which was originally on a slab, but was raised up about 1' to provide a space to run them. Think of it as a small, completely inaccessible crawlspace. Because of the height the drain angle could not be set correctly and the water lines have also had issues before we bought the house. Also, any maintenance or repair requires destroying the dining room floor. Other exterior walls are all taken up by bedrooms and the living and family rooms. If I put them in the small closet immediately off the master bedroom I'm looking at a straight shot, 16' of vent through the crawlspace. It's a very tough problem to figure out... I'm including a sketch that shows where the other bathroom window is though. It makes relocating other things or using the area as non-bathroom space very difficult. This whole part of the house has been very hard to figure out how to make functional. We don't know what the previous owners were thinking when they designed the addition. I'm normally not a difficult person but trying to piece together a better layout has been very frustrating. edit: Tomorrow I will play with the layout a little more... there may be a way to move the W/D over towards the window to the right of the vanity. Not sure where I would put the water closet but we'll see... This post was edited by schicksal on Sat, Jan 3, 15 at 22:03

Can you solve the door issue for Room C by making it an outswing? When open it would then be against the wall with what I assume is some kind of air return / chase. In your bathroom you might also gain some privacy for the toilet by pushing the shower up towards the closet and then putting the toilet on the shower side. Then you can put the linen closet or cabinet across from the toilet (that could also hold toilet paper for when you realize you're out ;) Would be shallower but the back of a 40" deep linen closet would probably be fairly inaccessible anyway. Would perhaps be less private when using the vanity because of the mirror, but do you generally use the toilet when someone else is in the room anyway?

What you've done here is cut down a good-sized bathroom into two small, uncomfortable spaces -- with this much space, you shouldn't have to settle for minimal sized facilities, which is what happens when you chop it up into smaller rooms. As you've drawn it here, the toilet is in a scrunchy-small spot, and if you're going to have a shower-only in a master bath, it needs to be a showstopper of a shower -- not something reminiscent of summer camp. My thoughts: - Get rid of the two-room concept. - Simplify the layout. - This shower is 3-4' wide, making it large and luxurious. At 8' long, you could have a large bench and a second shower head for sit-down showers on the end near the bedroom ... or you could shorten it to 6' (still large) and use that space for a second, small closet opening into the bedroom. - Place the toilet behind a small pony wall. This will set it apart a bit without hampering the room with a wall /will let the room feel larger. Since you're so concerned about smells (which dissipate very quickly), you could keep a candle on the pony wall. - This gives you a 6-7' vanity for the sink, which will allow a single sink centered in the middle and a luxurious 24-30" drawer stack on each side, providing each spouse with ample at-the-sink storage. Don't fall for the idea of duplicate sinks, which would eliminate most of that drawer space and leave you with toothbrushes and razors living on the countertop. - Build in a low, shallow cabinet across from the toilet and sink. This will give you massive storage for towels, toiletries, etc. and display space on top.