If (?) this is the zip code (42223) the roses are planted in it's coming up zone 7a on two different hardiness maps. I'm in zone 5b-6a right on the line so conditions are different here. You could contact a Rose Society in your area and ask them how deep to plant the bud union in your exact area. I can only guess... This post was edited by jim1961 on Sun, Apr 7, 13 at 20:49

for a pot.. i would use a pro blend of peat/perlite/vermiculite .. with 1/3 mini bark chunks ... store bone dry in a garbage can for 100 years .... for the ground .. stay natural ... compost/manure.. etc ... improve your soil.. rather than a given hole .... if bad clay soil.. see above re: pots ... if maple.. see above re: pots ... lol ==>> in potting culture.. i would rely on a PROFESSIONAL potting media.. souped up with added drainage thru the bark ... i am of the position.. that mother earth does NOT belong in pots.. and compost is just an unprocessed form of mother earth.. and so is manure ... 'engineering' potting media.. is all about achieving a PREDICTABLE basis of water management ... and there is nothing predictable with cow poop.. or leaf poop .. or any other poop ... [gold star for most use of poop in one paragraph.. thank you all for this award ...] but of course.. its all great stuff as a soil amendment ... now.. that was my opinion ... if you have used it enough .. in pots.. and feel secure with use.. you just go do whatever you want .. but do consider the course additive of bark ... worst that could come of it all is that you have to come back and tell me i was right .. or you came back and tell us.. it worked your way ... good luck ken Here is a link that might be useful:

I'm not that great at identifying, but maybe a mature Gold Standard? What ever it is, it's pips are taking off nicely!

The nursery supposed to be sending me another box of roots. The first batch in the image below only three came with greenish sprouts and the rest are just sad. I planted these on 5/6/21 I am thinking with this new batch I might be better off letting them soak in a bucket of water with a little bit of miracle growth, or maybe some Dr.Earth root starter fertilizer. I hope they green up, I might end up replacing them with the new one's the nursery sending me, as only two so far look like they're going to grow without some form of deformation.