bachelor seeking advice for failing meyer lemon tree
Jamie Clayton
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Comments (10)Meyers do not handle changes in light, temp, humidity well; they do a little better, if you can make the adjustment gradually; i.e. sun to partial sun, to shade, then indoors. In Zone 4 I would probably opt for leaving them outside, covering with a blanket or light tarp with a 75 watt bulb inside on cold nights; and only bringing them inside on the coldest nights, then back to the sun as soon as the temperature gets above 30 degrees F. The tree will do better outside always, as long as the temp. is 30 or higher. When you make rapid light changes, the tree drops the leaves it had grown for sunlight and tries to replace them with more efficient leaves for low light. I understand that I am anthropomorphizing here, but I hope you get the idea. For the rest of this Winter, I would leave it where it is and in the mix you have; it might not survive another shock at such a young age; as the tree grows it will store more carbohydrates in the trunk and branches that allow it to "suffer" more without major damage. When you can put it out in the Spring, that would be the time to make another change in the mix. BTW, if you posted this on the Citrus forum, there are lots of folks there that could help you better than I....See MoreHelp with failing meyer lemon trees
Comments (7)Of COURSE they need to be repotted! And root pruned, as well. You don't need a special potting medium for your citrus, just a very coarse textured, fast draining mix. If your local garden centers have a supply of orchid potting mix, that can work quite well. I'll also attach a link with my top choices for potting medium...they aren't sold at the retail level and you will have to ask a locally owned garden center or nursery to special order it for you. You are very correct in assuming that all of the litter dust isn't good for them. Not only does it coat the top surface of the foliage, which blocks out the already insufficient light, but it can clog the microscopic pores, called stomata or stomates, which are in the highest number on the lower surface. These pores are where plants exchange gases...CO2 and O2 in, then O2 and H2O out. If you can take some pictures of one of these plants so that we can see the size in relation to the container, as well as the general condition, we might be able to tell you if you need larger containers or if you can put them back into the same ones after a proper root pruning. The repotting/root pruning project can wait until spring. However, the plants would surely benefit from a thorough shower right now. Rinse the upper and lower surfaces of the leaves. You might want to do this when their potting mix is dry, so that a good drenching can be extra beneficial. Here is a link that might be useful: Fafard Heavy Weight Mixes...See MoreCalling in the Meyer lemon gang of experts for advice on winterizing:)
Comments (39)**Update at the end.** Good evening Mike, thanks for stopping by! I'll have no idea of what the PH of my water supply is. How do I go about finding that out, and in what way does it affect how I care for my trees? I won't fertilize if you think I shouldn't, but ... will it cost me my 5 lemons? I know it's silly, but we've been watching them grow since the beginning of the summer, and I would hate hate HATE for them to drop now. If I don't fertilize, won't my tree get rid of them? Yes, you are remembering correctly, when I repotted my trees they had HUGE root rot damage and there were really not a lot of roots left and almost no capillaries. Now, I know that they grew a big amount of the small ones during the summer, but it's pretty safe to say that these pots aren't full of roots, yet. Do you think it's one of the reasons it took so long to my pots to dry out? Or was it simply because the pots were not above the saucers like they are now? I haven't notices a big difference in my leaves since the watering, but to be honest I've been so busy today that I haven't had much time to watch my trees. I'll take a good look at them tomorrow morning, and I'll tell you if I notice a difference. Thanks for watching that small video! I'm glad you think that they drain well enough for 511 filled pots. It's not complicated to post a video, there is a "video" button right next to the link button when you make a post. The only thing I had to do is upload my video to Youtube first, because it asks you for an html link. Quote: "If I have just the couple of trees that you have, I would water them in the bathtub with the shower head every time they need water. A nice handheld shower head is so awesome for spraying the leaves down every time too..Just constant water on your leaves during the early a.m while watering can keeps mites away for sure.. " Now, Mike, DON'T YOU START! I am NOT carrying these trees up one floor and through my whole house all the way to a bathtub to water them! Absolutely NOT, and I don't care what they whisper in my ear when I'm close to them, LOL! i'll post pictures of the trees tomorrow morning :) Thank you for all your help, Mike, you are always so positive and uplifting, and your posts always make me smile :) . Atheen 10/8/2015 Update: Frankly, I didn't see my trees perk up like they used to when it rained outside. I was expecting a bigger response from that long awaited watering. I still have a few leaves that are slightly curved upwards on the smaller tree. They don't feel as supple as the other flat open leaves. I hope I didn't irrevocably screw up again by waiting to water to long... Fingers crossed that they don't turn yellow or fall down....See MoreMeyer Lemon Tree Needs Help
Comments (13)Thanks for all of the input. Bmelz, I suspect over watering also. Every time I put the moisture meter in it goes to WET. The fact the we have been getting rain every few days hasn't been helping dry it out either. I was afraid I was killing the roots. My blueberry plants where also suffering. They were all in a mix of 30% sand 30% Pete moss 30% miracle grow potting soil. Trying to save the container plants I came across the 5-1-1 recipe prior to checking back on this thread. I transplanted the lemon trees into a 5-1-1 mix and the blueberries into the mix minus the lime. I had to make two batches the first batch I let soak overnight the second batch was rushed with no soaking just a dry mix. The tall tree is actually just the root stock the meyer part died. I am going to grow it out and air layer clone some of the bigger sections to get them ready for grafting some bud wood on. I plan on taking some bud wood off the meyer and I have some kishu mandarin budwood coming in September. When I transplanted the rootstock roots were very large probably occupying 50% of the container. The smaller meyer roots were occupying 25% of container. I was afraid to work on the roots too much but I shook off most of the dirty but it still contained some deep in the center and I was hesitant to really get in there out of fear of damaging the roots. I put them in the new mix and gave a dose of osmocote plus and watered thoroughly. The 5-1-1 mix seems to work pretty good so far now even right after a vigorous watering it reads on the low end of wet but quickly moves to the moist zone. Currently the meyer tree is much smaller and has fruit set. I was thinking of taking the fruit off to help it recover from transplant and focus on growing bigger. Do you guys think that will increase the vegetative growth or should I leave them on? Thanks for the feedback Vlad, Laura, Meo, Bmelz!...See MoreMilan
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