Thank you, Sutherland, for your reply and information. I looked up Mme. Edouard Herriot on www.helpmefind.com/roses and compared that rose to the rose named Daily Mail Scented Rose. I don't think they are the same rose. Mme. Herriot won an award in 1922, but Daily Mail Scented Rose was not bred until 1927, by William ARcher and daughter. It was also a very popular rose in the UK if not the most popular rose for awhile. It is said to have a damask fragrance. Also in all the pictures I've seen of it it is a deep garnet red. It is unavailable in the US and the nursery I wrote to in Australia didn't reply to me. Oh well, there are other fine reds..I ended up ordering a Fields of the Woods. But I would still love to find one. Thanks, Linda

Hi Toni, Go for one that's Fragrant ! not smelly. :) Well, that 'hospital', is a less sunny rest, in a humid spot they'd like. It's a couple of cement blocks over the soil in pleasant, needle tree shade. You're right. It is probably time to fertilize. :] Thanks for the support, I've been dithering and fretting. I decided to wait to take cuttings, till there was a little top growth. They're sprouting now. Scents to look for -rose [several] -citrus [ lime, lemon crispum, Robert's lemon rose...] -pine [pine, Dean's Delite is one]. The rose or pine, will have cut leaves. The chocolate is big and gangly, and fuzzy. :> It would probably work, -only the strawberry one, didn't. The scent isn't that chocolaty [chocopine?]. Might plant one in the ground for the summer. [Thanks other thread!] Quite a few plants are supposed to smell like chocolate. Well-Sweep-Herb-Farm is in NJ. They have a list by botanical names. They even carry P. 'mabel grey' [finicky], heavenly scent! and effective. On the supplier thing, most of the great greenhouses, are Mom and Pop places, facing rising costs, like heat, labor, and pressures to modernize, which unfortunately have to be passed on. Some are lucky enough to have had more than one generation. When there is a transition, figuring how to change to new ways can be painful. you've probably seen this yourself, a few times. I was lucky enough to have bought from, and received advice from, some of that older generation, new one too, they're really nice. So Logee's is special to me. They started over a hundred years ago. Besides being local [~2 hrs] The greenhouse is a wonderful place to visit, I'll post a thread link below. I feel I owe them a debt of gratitude for existing because it educated me on tropicals, especially fragrant ones. I was right there in florida, surrounded by the predictable, and didn't know how to find out about any interesting plants. The library had...There It Was: 'The Essence of Paradise'.........since then it's been No More Boring Plants! They do have a whole sunken solar green house with geraniums [pelargoniums] some with cool flowers. Yeah, the pots are small, and i can't get many, but you see why I want to buy there. However, with this dreadful addiction, :) i am always interested in other places too. Their's are usually a superior cultivar, especially with scenteds. They bred them, after all. Pelly page: http://www.logees.com/products.asp?dept=75 You can cut and paste this to the address row up top. Mealies Grrr ! Saw your purple passion problem. Stick a pot of 'true rose' scented geranium [ pelargoneum graveolens] next to it. And/or a lemon crispum, or lime, you'll love me forever, lol! A few pots of different cool scents, can surround the problem. Give miss mealy fuzz, just a puff, of 10 %white vinegar and water spray [an inch or two in the bottom of the bottle]. Throw a leaf in the pot. HA ! Take that ! you mealies! Don't forget the wall, window frame, and curtains- you can use straight alcohol spray. Or your own formula, made much stronger than plants like. Hate those insecticides too. I couldn't find superthrive around here. Finally went with the Dyna-gro. The plants jumped up! Those micronutrients really make a difference. Except for Mabel, scenteds aren't fussy. Use hardly any fertilizer, thin it out, 4-6x a season [skip winter]. They are from clivia country, but sunnier. Here is a link that might be useful: Pictures from Logee's [a visit] by GWEBers

There are two others sources (besides MMS) for "Vanilla Bean Noel" listed on Felicity's Fragrance Finder. But I haven't tried either one... anyone else familiar with these two? Vanilla Bean Noel (type) Cheri's Country Cottage www.cheriscountrycottage.com Duplication: Bath & Body Works - "...a sweet vanilla spice & roasted hazelnuts!" Tri-State Candle Supplies tristatecandlesupply.safeshopper.com Skin safe. FYI... link below is to Felicity's Fragrance Finder... a place you will want to bookmark if you haven't already! Here is a link that might be useful: Fragrance Finder

newhomebuilder, I'm taking a look at the new beach club but felt the need to caution you first about buying Scentsy wax on ebay. You have no idea how old it is and unless it's kept in the freezer, it's "intended" use can be as short as 4-5 months depending on how it was stored. It will still have fragrance but be weaker. Which peach scent have you found and I'll try to figure out when was the last time it was offered (but it could be older than that). It might be something that hasn't been for sale for a year or longer! I'd hate for you to be disappointed with your first Scentsy experience. Tell me what you like and I'll try to make some suggestions...of course everyone's nose is different! The last peach fragrance I remember is Posey Peach