Hi Brad, You're so right. Reading suggestions on GW is a big help, and one can learn a lot from people who grow really rare plants, like CP's. Think I mentioned, I didn't know CP/Venus Flytraps bloomed. Our local conservatory keeps CP's in a large aquarium, but last time I visited CP's weren't flowering..They are interesting to watch though. Brad, I WISH I had that book. LOL, you're right...Little Shop of Horrors..One day that movie was on Cable. An old version..B-Grade, badly made movie. lol. I can't recall much about the movie, except a guy own a store, maybe a plant store, and got hold of a plant that ate people..lol..Too funny. Swallowtail sounds right. Wings are black edged, yellow centers. So far, haven't seen a ST this year. Oh, you'll love your Butterfly Bush..What color flowers? I had white over 10-years, '17-yr Cicada's killed it,' and still have a dark purple BB in the back yard. BB attracts Butterflys, bees and a little insect called Moth-Hummingbird. The first time I saw this insect I thought it was a Hummer...boy, was I excited. I started a thread here on GW, and found it wasn't a hummer, but a moth-hummer..Don't know if they're related or not.. Its wings flutter exactly like a Hummingbird. They're tiny, maybe 1-2" tall. Of all BB color flowers, I think white is most fragrant and attracts a larger number of insects. Mine were bought at HD, too. lol. As babies. So, you prune now? Doesn't pruning halt flowers? Big decision is an understatement. Coco, 'little dog' is very lonely w/o his big brother. On the other hand, he's very selfish, lol. He has quite a few stuffed animals, which we call his babies. Coco never liked sharing. Even w/Sam. lol So, if I get another dog, I fear Coco will think he/she is his baby, and won't want me to touch the new little guy/gal. Training might be impossible. Sam gets credit for house training Coco. Coco watched Sam go out back..When Coco grew a little, I took Coco out back. He was so tiny, I feared he'd find a way outside the fence. Even though I took Coco out, he was only doing what Sam did, if that makes sense. lol. Then, Sam and Coco went outside together, under my supervision. Coco weight about 5 lbs, Sam was 172. I worried Sam would step on Coco. Too protective??? lol Did you get a chance to browse Black Jungle? Toni

Quinn, I bet it would look great planted in the same pot. Why not they are both the same variety just different color blooms. I think it would look really cool to have two different color blooms in one pot. I'm for anything that can eliminate another pot and save space. I've planted KQ and KP together and plan on potting up Var. bella with regular bella. As long as the requirements of the plants are the same and they are in the same family I don't see any issues with it...but that's just my opinion. They both are really beautiful!! Whoever gets one...Please post pictures here!

haha i know i can bee impatient... the rooting of hoyas is completley new to me and this one was the last one to root and put out any growth so i was worried about it... no it never lost a leaf and always looked very healthy besides looking a tiny bit dehydrated oh really hot days, but now its been doing great! when i stay that i keep adjusting how it grows is that the vine has a mind of its own, i keep trying to wind it one way while its growing up and ill come outside a few hours later and it will have unwound and the wound around another way... kind of like its saying, "your not going to tell me how im going to grow! ill do what i want!" haha. i just stuck the cup inside a nice country/apple themed sugar container and then hung it, i still have it clipped to the yarn on the hanger growing up, but when it gets long enough ill probably loop it around the hanger. ive got many more pics to come, just need the time to take pics of all my babies to post. one of my favorites thats coming along beautifully is my H. cv. mathilde, with is sooooo darn cute! i cant help but touch the cute little leaves when i go by it and look at all the new leaves and see the little silver splotches on them. SO CUTE! i promise there will be pics to come of all my babies!

Way to go, David! I ordered sp. Philippines #10 as well, so obviously that makes you super. Guilty also of Black Dragon and obscura 'White Form'. ...and came *this close* to sp. Philippines 'Golden Flame' and mindorensis purple star. Your order could have been my order almost exactly if I hadn't been waiting on a huge order from Joni and feeling particularly penitent. We must have similar aesthetic taste!! What with this and your amazing list of hoyas, I should buy you a beer. ^_~