Cabinets- factory or local construction?
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Disadvantages to local custom cabinets?
Comments (11)There are disadvantages to "local custom cabinetmakers" and there are disadvantages to "corporate" cabinetmakers. There are advantages to "local custom cabinetmakers" and there are advantages to "corporate" cabinetmakers. It's all in what you want, etc. Do your research regardless of the route you go. (Taken from one of my posts on a thread from earlier this month.) Just a word of caution..."local (custom) cabinetmaker" is thrown around here a lot with the implication they are all superior to or at least as good the various cabinet manufacturers. Some may be, but there is no guarantee. "Local custom cabinetmaker" does not necessarily equate to "high quality" or "low cost". There are many very good custom cabinetmakers out there, but there are many not-so-good ones as well. Just b/c someone is a "custom cabinetmaker" does not make him/her a good cabinetmaker. And, it's not just their skill at cabinetry...how are their business skills? E.g., How are they at meeting schedules? Do they stay within the cost they quote you? How do they deal with issues? What is their warranty? What recourse do you have if they drop the ball? Sometimes you can go "over the heads" of people at cabinet stores or even go to the manufacturer (at least for warranty issues), but you might not have that option with a local cabinetmaker. If you go this route, be very diligent in your research: Contact several recent references, including at least one who had problems so you can see how s/he handled those problems. Ask about: How were they at keeping to the schedule they promised? Did they stick pretty close to the cost estimate they gave them (no hidden fees, undeclared upgrades, etc.)? Did they let them see a sample of their cabinet door w/finish for approval of the finish, quality, etc. prior to completing the entire order? How did they handle construction issues? How did they handle installation issues? Contact several not-so-recent references, ask them how their cabinets are holding up (joints, face frames, drawers, doors, finish, etc.). Try for some at least 5 years old and at least 10 years old. See actual installed kitchens with the same type of cabinets & finish you are looking for: Type: frameless, framed overlay (partial or full), inset Wood species: cherry, maple, alder, oak, etc. Finish: stained, glazed, painted Look at their construction details: Wall thicknesses, box material (plywood, MDF, etc.), interior finishes, box construction (joining, etc.), drawer construction, shelving, etc. What is their warranty on their products? 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? Lifetime? Do they have a kitchen designer they work with or does the cabinetmaker do the designing? Are they open to working with you as a designer or with a kitchen designer you hire separate from them? [You really should work with a good designer to catch the "details" that might be missed by you and/or us (most of us are not pros)] ......See MoreFactory versus in-home cabinet painting
Comments (2)Factory finish or custom made cabinets built in a shop are always sprayed finishes under very controlled conditions requiring ventilation, respirators, sealed switches and light fixtures, etc...much like the spray booths in an auto body shop. These conditions are hard to duplicate in a house. Also, the factory finishes are always lacquer based finishes. This is done for a reason. Lacquer is a quick drying product. The cabinets are sprayed with one coat and immediately sprayed within thirty minutes with a second coat. These finishes are thin bodied products specifically made for spraying and are extremely volatile in nature. These products are not available to the average homeowner because of their volatility and health hazards. (Lacquer finishes will kill brain cells when they are sprayed) Most painters are not properly trained and equipped to handle these products in a home because of the explosion hazard. (No pilot lights ignited, no flippng light switches, loss of brain cells, etc...) There are water based lacquer finishes available as well as brush on lacquer finishes, but they are not the same as real lacquer products. The most common name in lacquer is M.L. Campbell Finishes, providing most cabinet makers with finishes....See MoreBrookhaven cabinets vs. local custom cabinets - can't decide!
Comments (14)I cannot address how Brookhaven compares with custom, but I have a Kitchen with Woodmode (stain finish) and Butler's Pantry (stain finish) and Laundry (painted) with Brookhaven. The Woodmode is inset, and Brookhaven is overlay. We had a number of issues with the dealer and his installer. Our project was a nightmare as a result. Do not assume that because a dealer carries a great product like Woodmode/Brookhaven, that they will be good at what they are supposed to do. And Woodmode's lead-time for replacement parts can be a real schedule-breaker. I am in the process of planning for another kitchen remodel (the Woodmode/Brookhaven is in our second home), and will be going with custom cabinets this time. The main reasons for deciding not to use Woodmode/Brookhaven this time around are cost and lead-time for replacement parts. I have to say, that even though Woodmode/Brookhaven cabinets are very, very nice cabinets, I do not think they are worth what they cost. The cost is staggering! My kitchen is very high-end. We spend a fortune on many custom items, such as a custom-carved french limestone range hood, custom hand-made forged lighting fixtures etc. No expense was spared. I have to say, that for all these items, I feel as if I got good value for the price. Not so for the cabinets. Don't get me wrong, they are great cabinets--just that they stand-out in a kitchen where everything is "over-the-top" as having a cost that is ridiculously out of line. I recently decided to add an smallish amoire-type cabinet in my laundry room to store brooms. This little Brookhaven gem--despite the fact that they were having a "sale," cost about $2,300. To store brooms. In my laundry room. Galling, no? But I chose Brookhaven, so if I want it to match... I have several friends who have done kitchens recently, and what I spent on cabinets easily is four times or more what any of them spent. Some of those friends used custom cabinets that seem as nice, if not nicer (especially when considering the ability to custom fit, or do any door style) than Brookhaven. Perhaps some are not as nice, but not significantly so, and the cost difference is huge. One thing to consider in terms of the durability of finish is how long you will be in the house--or how long until the next remodel. If it is a long time, a factory finish is almost always more durable than a custom. But the custom might be easier to retouch too. Funny, when I was ordering my Brookhaven, the dealer had a display that was finished by a local finishing specialist, because the finish they wanted was not available from Brookhaven! Not sure where you are located, but in the Pacific Northwest there is a company called Morgans Fine Finishes, and they specialize in cabinet finishing. They actually finish cabinets in their shop, and then you install, so you get some of the benefits of a factory finish, but the ability to customize. Guess it all depends on your priorities. There are some nice custom cabinets out there, but if Brookhaven offers the color and door style you want, they are great cabinets, just very, very expensive!...See MorePainted Cabinets (factory painted, not self paint)
Comments (1)It's really easy to rub stain into a scratch on a wood door and make it hardly noticeable. I decided against paint for my new kitchen without any children (much less five under five!) and no animals, because I knew there would be scratches and I knew I wouldn't like the resulting "patina". You can paint out scratches a bit, but it's hard with a factory paint job. Factory paint is more durable than brushed paint, but brushed paint is easier to "fix". So... how much do you like the white vs. how much do you hate bumps and scratches? Would you ever consider something as unstylish as melamine? As expensive as lacquer? Do you expect to move or redo your kitchen by the time your kids are in their teens? Or when they're out of the house? Or do you expect this kitchen to survive their childhood?...See MoreRelated Professionals
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