Sylvia, I have read on this forum one of the OGR's that works great in Zone 10 is the only one I have. Vick's Caprice. Sorry folks, no big shot of the entire bush. This is on its own root and it is less than a year old. So it is still quite a baby. Great rose. Makes a great cut flower too. Lasts a long time. Hear he is easy to root. Stripes are great! Great fragrance. Love him!

Sylvia, you may be able to grow Bourbons, as I grow MIP and SDlM, though SDlM doesn't care for the humidity, and balls in rain. I have rugosas too - Scabrosa and Blanc Double de Boubert, and they both do well.

Vick's Caprice is a rose I've often thought of trying but I never thought I could. This picture is enough to make me want to try. Beautiful!

titian, you have some beautiful roses! MIP and Anna Olivier are especially lovely. Really, though, everyone's roses are stunning and so impressive.

Thanks to everybody for the roses, with a particular word of appreciation to oldrosarian: I love the once-blooming old roses, and you show them in all their beauty.

Thanks, Ingrid, but when I look at others' photos, I droop!

Sara-Ann, I meant to add that that is a stunning photo of La France.

Sara-Ann, Mme Ernst Calvat is one of my favorites. I really like both MIP and Mme Ernst Calvat. I, too, grow Kathleen Harrop. Bourbons are wonderful roses.

Thank you Titian1 and Krista. Krista, these older roses are "new" to me, but I totally agree with you, Bourbons are wonderful roses! I can't wait to see MEC in all her glory next spring, it's one gorgeous rose!

Sara-Ann, your picture of Reine des Violettes is gorgeous!

Jackie

WOW! Everyone’s
pictures are just wonderful. I said I
was going to slow down on ordering this year, so need to quit looking at this
thread of enabling photos! Here are a
few of mine that haven’t been pictured yet.

Arethusa

Champneys'
Pink Cluster

Jeanne
d’Arc

Kaiserin
Auguste Viktoria

Louis
Philippe

Mary
Washington

Marie
van Houtte

Natchitoches
Noisette

Sombreuil

Souvenir
de Pierre Notting

Pat - your pictures are lovely - you are a good photographer! I have just 2 further comments:

1) Thank you so much for the great pic of Louis Philippe - I have an old red china which I was fuzzling between guessing it was LP, or Cramoisi Superior. I now think it is the latter. (Close up and bush pics of my supposed CS below).

2) Just to be clear, the Sombreuill in your picture above is not an OGR - it has been reclassified by the ARS as a modern large flowered climber. It was hybridized in the 1960s, and got mixed up with an old tea rose (long story).

Here is a bush pic of my CS:

Hi Jackie,

I knew Sombreuil had been reclassified and wasn't considered a tea any longer, but didn't realize it was as "modern" as the 1960s. Thanks for the clarification!

I've only been growing my Louis Philippe for three years now, so it isn't a mature plant yet...but in case it helps, here are a few more shots that better show leaves, buds, etc. of mine. The picture I posted earlier was from June of this year.

May 2015

July 2015

These are both from April 2015

I only have a paltry handful of OGRs compared to the rest of you. I see many here I'd love to have but a lot of them tend to need much more space than I have to give them. Even the three I have could use more room but I manage to keep them within bounds...sort of.

Honorine de Brabant

Thank you Jackie! Pat, you have some real beauties there, enjoy seeing your roses so much! Seil, love your Honorine de Brabant!

I love your Honorine too, seil. Does sit bloom well for you? I had it years ago in another garden but all it wanted to do was grow bigger and better leaves. The flowers have such wonderful subtle shading but I never saw too many of them.

Thanks! Honorine is only a once bloomer in my short season. It does give a really nice big flush in June but nothing after that. It grows like an octopus though, lol!

I've admired Seil's photos of Honorine at HMF for years.

So many times you've almost made me try her, Seil, but I'm afraid in my climate an octopus would turn into a giant squid.

So many beautiful photos. Thanks to everyone who shared!

"Benny Lopez"

Everyone's pictures are gorgeous! I so wish I had more space. Louise Phillipe, be still my beating heart! Eugene is gorgeous as well. Must be my day for purple roses. Truely, everyone, your roses are just stunning!

Wow! Love these pictures.

Yes, I love that photo of Florence Bowers Pink Tea especially.

I feel somewhat trepidatious posting my photos because my roses are all so young, however, I've tried to find only 'whole bush' shots so you can get an idea of the plants. Here they are -

Anna Olivier - bought in May and had to spend the entire summer in her nursery pot - she was just planted last week but this photo is from summer

Buff Beauty (own root) - planted in May 2013 and wants to take over the world

Dr. Grill - another May 2015 purchase who had to spend the summer in a black plastic nursery pot but is now 'in the ground' -

Lady Hillingdon (own root) - planted in March 2015

Lady Roberts - planted in March 2015 and growing strongly

Mme. Alfred Carrière - (own root) four plants, planted in November 2013

Mlle. de Sombreuil (Roseraie de l'Hay) - another purchase from May 2015 who has just been planted -

Octavus Weld - same story, purchased in May but planted last week - don't have a 'whole bush' shot of this plant ...

Safrano - own root - originally sent to me as 'Sombreuil' and spent a year in a pot while I tried to discover its identity - 12 months later I ordered a Safrano from the same supplier and discovered that the two plants are identical so 'mystery solved' -

I can't resist one shot of Safrano's blooms - I absolutely love this rose - this photo taken last Wednesday -

I have a few other OGRs I've grown from cuttings but have no idea what they are so I'll leave them out of this thread.

Oh Jeri, it's really exciting for me to see your 'Crestline Mulberry' rose - I only just read Kim Rupert's story on the Help Me Find Ezine about this rose before dinner tonight. What a coincidence!

Here's the link for those who are interested - I found this a wonderful read -

I Am NOT an Expert

I'm assuming/hoping that it's OK to link to articles on the HMF website?

Jeri, can please you tell me how long you've had Crestline Mulberry and how it grows for you? Any information would be welcome - I'm sure I'll never be able to find it but I just found the story of its incredible survival really inspiring.

I can't really tell you too much. It's in a 7-G pot until we find out where to put it. I CAN tell you that it has been completely disease-free here, and a willing bloomer.

Tuderte, you have nothing to be trepidatious about! Those are gorgeous roses. Your Buff Beauty is a splendid thing, and I am very envious of your Dr Grill and Lady Roberts. I hadn't realised till I looked it up just now that it was a sport of Anna Olivier.

And I found the article most interesting. I think Jim will have got the point!

Trish

I don't have many pictures, but I did find a few from a previous gardening life. Souvenir de la Malmaison and Mademoiselle Franziska Krueger

tuderte, you have some wonderful roses, and what really amazes me is how quickly they grow for you. I'm truly envious!! Anna Olivier and Lady Roberts are such beautiful teas. Mlle. de Sombreuil is one I also have and that one took off quickly for me too.

bellegallica, I'm blown away by your fantastic Mlle. Franziska Krueger. It's notoriously difficult to grow and when I had one years ago it looked nothing like yours. That pinkish-peachy glow on yours is perfection.

Thank you Ingrid and Titian for your comments - I'm very impatient to see my roses grow into 'substantial' plants - the older I get, the more impatient I become! I have to agree with you Ingrid that bellegallica's Mlle. Franziska Krueger is a really splendid rose - and how I envy that clean foliage! My 'new' roses all have clean foliage but the rest are suffering badly from blackspot now. We had more than 170 mms (almost 7 inches) of rain in October interspersed with very warm days - the warm days continued until last Wednesday. Since then we've had top temperatures of around 12 degrees (Celsius) and an unrelenting, very wet fog that has persisted for more than 72 hours. All the roses look so forlorn in the fog ... and, of course, I much prefer to stay inside and read rather than get chilled to the bone by attempting anything in the garden.

That Safrano pic is tremendously reassuring somehow - I have read of the habit some teas have of growing one cane at a time giving them a decidedly odd appearance and that is exactly what my General Schablikine looks like right now, maybe a little smaller. Glad to have it visually confirmed that it's not just my rose!

Thanks, Ingrid. I'm pretty sure that picture of MFK was taken in the cool weather of spring or fall when the colors are more intense.

Marianne, those are glorious pictures of your roses. Your garden is to me the essence of what a garden in a cool climate should be. It reminds me of my childhood, although I'm sure I never saw anything that beautiful.

fduk, any number of my tea roses have or had that appearance. It reminds me of the gawkiness of a human teenager, and I now have the equal assurance that the roses will grow out of it, like their human counterparts. Sometimes I have the inclination to "even everything out" which of course would be disastrous. By the next year they look a lot more normal, and after a few years are splendid, rounded bushes.

Thank you Ingrid, you are too kind as always. BTW, I am another Ingrid, actually my first name but I am called Marianne.

P.S. I notice on rereading my post that one word is missing, "frozen". Madame Plantier froze to almost half its size one winter.

Hi fduk_gw, I'm attaching what I think is probably a better shot of the Safrano bush - it's quite interesting how much larger this bush has grown in the past few months - last year I kept cutting it back to a '5 leaflet leaf', however I no longer prune it but merely snap off the flower heads at what I believe is called the 'abscission point' and I've been very surprised to see how much new growth comes from these areas - with not a 5 leaflet leaf in sight!

At least the fog lifted today - so did my spirits!

Y'all made me buy more roses! I had a running list at Rogue Valley and got

Champney's Pink Cluster

Jerri Jennings

Cardinal de Richelieu

Climbing Devoniensis

Plus Mariotta and a mystery rose. There were more that I wanted, but they were out of stock. I think I have enough for an OGR bed.

Pat, how old is your Arethusa and how big is it? I'm afraid I've planted mine in an unsuitable spot.

I'm with you, Buford. I bought two more this week myself! What an addiction.

I can't even begin to describe some of the beautiful roses I've seen on this thread, they are very impressive! Looks like I'm going be doing lots of research!

Turdete -- I learned the same thing this year with my 'Perle d'Or', and repeated it with any other China, Tea, or Polyantha in my garden. It seems odd, if you're not accustomed to it, to see these naked candelabra stems leafing out after the blooms finish -- or are snapped off. It's kinda backwards from many other roses, which send out growth first, terminating in blooms. Chinas, Teas, and Polyanthas seem to send out blooms first, then growth on top of the spent flower stems.

:-)

~Christopher

Yes Christopher, you're absolutely correct - the other really noticeable 'growth spurt' plant I've had since I started doing this was 'Old Blush'. I only wish I'd known this last year when I pruned back Mlle. Cecile Brunner (she still hasn't recovered and I haven't noticed any new growth in the past twelve months so she may now be a lost cause) and Souvenir de la Malmaison - my bush of which seems to be very short on 'five-leaflet' leaves so she is also recovering from my ministrations of over twelve months ago. We live and learn ...

Tuderte, I had to cut back my White Cecile Brunner quite drastically 3 years ago, and she sulked, did absolutely nothing. But this year she has started putting out new growth and at present is covered in buds, so it may be you just have to be extra patient with your Mlle. Spray Cecile, on the other hand, will take vigorous hacking and bounce back within weeks. I cut mine back to about 2' just over a month ago, and already she is back to 5' and growing....

Hi Floridarose, I got my Arethusa 3 years ago as a one gallon. It's about 3 1/2 tall & wide right now...maybe a bit taller, but it had some dieback (not extreme, though) with our last two harsh winters. In a milder climate, it would probably be bigger now. I don't have a full bush shot...this picture from May is the closest I have to that:

I hope my Areuthsa doesn't get that big....

Tuderte, where did your Dr. Grill come from? Curious as there seem to be different plants in commerce under the same name. Some of them are mostly pink others tend to be apricot. Beales sell one which they describe as 'vibrant pink' which is the reason I have not bought that rose from them. I believe it should tend towards apricot shades.

Glorious pics everyone!

Hi Nik, mine came from 'Vivaio S'Orrosa' here in Italy -

Vivaio S'Orrosa

The website is in Italian only but if you click on 'Il Cuore della Collezione' and then on 'Rosa Te' and then 'Le Nostre Te' you will find three pages of photos of his tea roses (drool). Apart from Dr. Grill, I've also bought from him Octavus Weld, Anna Olivier, Mlle. de Sombreuil (Roseraie de l'Hay) and, last year, Lady Roberts. All the roses are incredibly healthy and strong growers.

I checked back through my photos of Dr. Grill and can only say that the flower colour is extremely variable and, obviously, my plant is still very young. I apologise if I've posted these photos before but here is a rose from my Dr. Grill photographed at 12:22 on 18th October - looking very pink -

And here is the same flower two hours later -

A day later it looked like this -

These colours are quite different from the colours in July/August (when it was very hot). It's getting quite a few buds at the moment and I'm interested to see how they develop. However, after a glorious Indian summer for the past few weeks it looks as if we're due for some much colder weather next week so the buds may never turn into flowers :-(

Omelodye, I've planted Mlle. Cecile B. in the ground ten days ago along with copious amounts of good soil, manure and 'hoof and horn' in the hope that she might realise that I'm trying to help her along. I'll cross my fingers that she eventually comes good! Many thanks for the encouraging news ...

Hi Tuderte,

That Roman nursery seem to be carrying a very good selection of warm climate roses including my favorite Gigantea hybrids. However there is no information on the site that I could find with regards to mail ordering (not to speak of international shipping..), no pricing, nothing. Seems they are not interested in internet (not to mention international) patronage, something very common with many nurseries in France, Italy and Germany and a pet peeve of mine of which I have moaned repeatedly..

Any idea how they do their business? Is it a walk-in nursery only so one has to land in Anzio to buy one of their roses in a pot? That can be too expensive for me..especially considering all those Germans... lol

Tuderte, I drooled more than my St. Bernard when I looked at the Italian rose site. It gave my Italian a workout, but the photos tell the story, don't they. I love your Dr. Grill.

Nik, the nursery is a 'one man show' and, as you can probably tell, he's passionate about his roses. I first met him in May 2014 at the three day rose festival in Spoleto, which is only about an hour's drive from where I live. I went with a girlfriend who had bought from him before and who had spoken very highly of his roses. I then saw him this year at the 'Orticolo' in Milan and he confirmed he would be in Spoleto again at the end of May so I asked him to bring the four roses I wanted to Spoleto where I collected them.

Unfortunately, I believe that he has been very unwell this year and my girlfriend confirmed that he was meant to be at a rose show in Rome a couple of months ago but couldn't attend because of illness.

I paid 20 Euros each for my roses. I don't believe that he sells mail order or ships internationally.

I do hope his health problems disappear and that I can see him again next May in Spoleto!

Pitty since he has a fine collection of roses. I wish him well.

Pat, thank you. Mine has been in the ground about a year and really isn't growing at all. It's about 18 inches tall and much wider. It is blooming nicely, just not doing much size-wise. I think I need to relocate it. Other roses planted at the same time are three times as large.