11/5/15: protein, Omega-3 for roses & us, what work for your health?

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The above is sprouted-grained bread, Ezekiel 4:9, made with a recipe taken from the Old Testament in the Bible. It works wonder in weight loss. Decades ago that bread was recommended in nutrition and weight-loss books. Hollywood star like Halle Berry eats that bread, so do vegetarians (it's high in protein). Thanks to that bread, I went down to 97 lbs. many years ago.

That bread is so filling, it's like eating a steak !! Also low-in salt and sugar, great for diabetic. Protein and Omega-3 help with weight loss. Also good for roses, Bailey (prickles) achieved over 120 blooms in his Austin rose Young Lycidas in a pot, fed with salmon bits.

An excerpt from Natural News: " Researchers at the University of South Australia took a group of 75 people who were diagnosed as being either overweight or obese and who had cardiovascular disease risk factors such as high blood pressure and high cholesterol levels, and split them into four groups.

After three weeks, three of the groups did not show much change, but the group that was given the fish oil and had exercised had an average weight loss of about 4.5 pounds and a decrease in overall body fat percentage.
Natural News

That's true, when I give my kid a heaping tablespoon of Barlean's fish oil (citrus sorbet flavor), she eats 1/2 of her meal ... it's only 70 calories per tablespoon of fish oil, but she eats 200 calories less, plus much less hungry for the entire day. Highly recommend that fish oil for yummy taste, it's like a desert. I tried all 3 flavors at the health food stores: lime, orange, citrus sorbet, and the citrus sorbet is best. What worked for your health? Any veggies, fruits, or habits that helped you toward weight loss, better sleep & more energy? Thanks.

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jessjennings0 zone 10b

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I just had to run out and take a few snaps

this is Belle Epoque (can't get enough of her) - 2nd flush...non stop - showing all the different stages of her colors

Frohsinn '82, with a strong new cane growing, and already buds at the top

Oklahoma - definitely the best smelling rose... she nearly died on me several times, wouldn't grow, BS ridden, now with the Gypsum and Sulfate of Potash, a new rose...her petals feel like velvet...the fragrance is hypnotizing...

Rosa Mochata Nana (top and below) with Eden at the back (she didn't want to be photographed). Full of bees, sweet fragrance

Summersnow and garlic friend (as close to snow as I'll get I think...a miniature and she also was BS ridden with no flowers at all)

this is a repeat, just wanted to show how this rose is flourishing after gypsum and sulfate of potash - doesn't stop flowering....and she was transplanted about 2 months ago...(Purple Glow & Petunia friend) (The Petunias are really struggling in this intense heat and need to be watered twice per day)

another repeat - Easy Does It - doesn't stop blooming

another repeat - Graham Thomas....still no BS....

and last, and again, but not least....take a deep breath....

Evelyn.... she made it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks so much everyone, especially Strawberry Hill, for all the great advice!

Thanks to Jim I stopped watering her completely, thanks to Strawberry Hill with the great advice with Gypsum, Sulfate of Potash, nitrogen leaves on top and a sprinkle of wood ash.... and yes, I also see them, a few lost maize plants that will be pulled out soon...

now one last question - the tiny hole in the cut stem, do I need to be worried about that?

Thank you for sharing them with me :-)

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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
Jess asked how Cameron was doing in our last thread...

Cameron has had 30 doctors look at her trying to figure things out. Cameron had to stop rehab because they think she is bleeding internally.. So very up and down experiences for poor Cameron...
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rosecanadian
8 years ago
Oh poor Cameron, I was hoping she would be better by now. This is scary.

Jess, I love ancient animals (especially from the Pleistocene). The two "cows" you showed do look very similar!! That's so interesting!!!

Carol
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
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Great info to start this thread Straw!

Yes Jess interesting animals pics in the last thread...

Some fall photos:
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strawchicago z5
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8 years ago
Jim: I'm praying hard for Cameron and her parents. The parents grieve the most when something is wrong with the child. My 13-year old daughter is slow in losing her baby front teeth. She has 3 canine, plus 2 other front teeth .. a total of 5 baby teeth which she haven't lost. The dentist recommend pulling 5 of them out, but the last time he pulled out her canine, the root was super-long. I am indecisive .. I think let nature works is best, rather than rushing it. Dentist are eager to make money. What do you think? Thanks for any info.
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
I would not be able to decide either Straw...lol... Are there any complications possible if she waits and lets them fall out on there own? If not than you save a lot of money...
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jessjennings0 zone 10b
8 years ago
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Poor little Cameron.. I am praying for her Jim...I hope and wish for her to become better soon....why is she bleeding internally? due to medication?

I remembered something just now...

http://www.mariatrebenherbs.com/?pid=55&sid=69:COMMON-CLUB-MOSS

I used this herb with huge success Jim.

My ex's boss had a cramped finger due to gout or rheumatism and he couldn't play golf for many years - I made him a little finger pouch stuffed with this dried herb and the next week he played golf for the first time...when my neck had spams due to stress I just put a small pouch filled with this herb next to it and the cramp went away immediately - due to increase blood flow...

Maybe if your wife or her mom can make her a little quilt, stuffed with this (dried) herb - to sleep on - it is miraculous. It stimulates blood flow without medicine...and might help her overcome the paralysis soon.....

The Club Moss is a radium containing plant
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jessjennings0 zone 10b
8 years ago
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Strawberry I am with you all the way when you say - let nature takes it's course....with your daughter's teeth...yes, dentists want to make money...my baby teeth also took much longer than other kids to fall out and be replaced with the permanent teeth and I had no complications...

Jim, thanks so much for the amazing photo's of your Fall colors - we don't have any of that here... I have planted 3 liquid amber trees but they're still babies, I hope they grow fast so that I can see that stunning red when it's autumn here...again, those white houses are beautiful....

Strawberry Hill, thanks for the info on the bread and Omega fish oil - I am going to ask the health shop to try and source that because I've never seen that anywhere around here...it sounds delicious... is it very expensive?

so glad about the Keffir-info in your previous post, it is very expensive here and now it saves me the money to try it out.... also, many people here don't even know about the bad ingredient in Soya milk...they just stop drinking soya milk due to severe stomach cramps...and think it's the soya....

Glad you enjoyed the ancient animals as much as I did Carol - Isn't it amazing that 4 of those mentioned in that site lived with humans?
rosecanadian
8 years ago
Yes, it's amazing!! I love the ancient aurochs - which is what they look like.

Carol
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8 years ago
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I get the same bread .

I also eat fish often with spinach and red potatoes.

Thank you Straw you made my Day.
jessjennings0 zone 10b
8 years ago
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I need to get hold of this bread.... (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
jessjennings0 zone 10b
8 years ago
my first Clematis ever, with her first blooms.... :-)
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strawchicago z5
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8 years ago
Jess: Thank you for posting such wondrous pics .. Life is good, and so are good friends here. Really like the color of your Clematis, I don't see lavender often, but I see lots of light-blue and dark-red Clematis in my neighborhood.

Your roses have so many blooms, and leaves are so healthy in the heat, no mildew nor blackspots whatsoever !! Wow! With regard to that hole in Evelyn's stem, cane-borer insect can enter. Folks advise Elmer-glue (whitish school-glue) but THAT DID NOT WORK for my Firefighter rose, the rain washed all the glue off, plus the glue attracted more cane-borers.

There's one organic tip which I haven't tried yet: use sticky heavy clay and seal the hole with that. I think solid-mineral in clay does a better job of sealing than mushy glue. I still have hardened-clay stuck on my shoes for months.

Carol: Aztcqn (California poster) gave an excellent link in the other thread entitled: "Successful Reversal of Retinitis Pigmentosa

Merrill J. Allen, O.D., Ph.D.; Raymond W. Lowry, M.S., O.D.

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1998/articles/1998-v13n01-p041.shtml

I repost Aztcqn's link here .. there's always hope for all conditions. Thank you, Aztcqn for posting that link.
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8 years ago
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Sam and Jim: Thanks for the info. about winter-protecting roses (posted in Rose forum). I read through Karl's tips for winter-protection (thanks, Sam, for that think to Karl's article in HMF).

My last house was acidic clay, so tree's leaves were acidic. That was more than 15 years ago, I used sugar-maple-leaves to winter-protect: more than 10 hybrid teas got black canker to the tip !! Sugar maple is more acidic.

Fast forward to my current house in alkaline clay: I use tons of Autumn Blaze maple-leaves to winter-protect Knock-outs for over a decade, no canker, no die-back ... except for last year, which I DID NOT use leaves, and Knock-outs got dried out, died back to a few inches.

The type of leaves matter. I get many variety of leaves: some leaves have black spots, some leaves have bumpy molds (I avoid these), oak leaves are very dry, compared to wet maple leaves. The pH of leaves differ, re-post the info. I posted in "Cheapest soil pH testing using red-cabbage juice"

You can also use fresh leaves
- but this varies. See
http://www.asecular.com/forests/phleaves.htm

Most acidic is Eastern Redbud
(pH 4.3), Virgninia pine (pH 4.4), sugar
maple (4.5), black maple (5.4), black walnut (pH 4.6), white oak (4.6), black
oak (5 to 5.5), white ash (5.8 to 6.1), American Beech (5.8 to 6.9), flowering
dogwood (5.5 to 6), Slipper elm (7 to 7.9), Hackberry at pH 8. If the leaves are fully-decomposed over a
year, they become neutral to alkaline, according to U. of Illinois
Extension. Same with decomposed grass,
slightly alkaline.

*** Looking at the above list, our alkaline region has lots of the alkaline-leaves: white ash, beech, elm, hackberry .. we don't have sugar maple like my last house of acidic clay. We have Autumn Blaze maple, which is very drought-tolerant, and the leaves are much drier than thick & large sugar-maple's leaves.
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8 years ago
Thank You for that info Straw. I like to use the Elm and Ash and Beech leaves.
strawchicago z5
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8 years ago
While checking on leaves versus mulch, I found a discussion board among cold-zoners. Some excerpts from below link:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/mulching-practices-benefits-for-figs-5501337

" I use leaves from all my maple and ash trees, I have many. It keeps down the weeds, adds nutrients to the soil, and protects in winter against freezing/thawing. If we have a good amount of snow here, on top of the mulch, that insulates the ground even more. The problem I see is not the ground freezing, but freezing then thawing, then freezing again and again.

The more mulch you can heap on it, the better it will work. Just keep a small ring of space right next to the trunk, so the mice won't gnaw on the bark. Bark will work, or old hay, or leaves." Andrew zone 5 Vermont.

"Keep in mind that pine mulch is very acidic and when a tree in a pot it is more impacted by ph level changing than the inground trees. I got a tree from a forum member that had a thick layer of mulch on top, it did not grow at all this summer, and the leaves were pale yellow all summer. I should have added some lime to see how if it really makes a difference. " Bass in PA.

" I have also noticed that when winter-kill occurs, a thick (even thin) layer of mulch can stop it from killing all the way to the ground if the stem/trunk is covered making for faster starts in the Spring and less suckering of new shoots from below the ground. Good luck!" Ruben in TX

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/mulching-practices-benefits-for-figs-5501337
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8 years ago
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I liked reading that thread. It reminds me of what Mike McGrath says to callers on his show. Thanks Straw.
jessjennings0 zone 10b
8 years ago
Thank you Strawberry Hill, for saying that about the roses in my garden...

and thank you for all the experiments and patient and scientifical research that made a poison-free organic rose garden possible...

About the Clematis - it was the only one I could get and the color is a surprise, I couldn't see the name on the pot it was too worn - off... I am glad it's lilac, but I would still love to get a blue Clematis, maybe I'll find one someday soon...

I pressed clay into Evelyn's stem where the hole was.... :-)
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
Jess, doctors do not know why Cameron is bleeding inside... I have not received any new updates yet though...But will when I get any...

Jess, enjoyed your rose pics! Nice to see since our growing season for roses is over.

Great info Straw!
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
Garran might need an operation as he has been throwing up his food way too much... They are at the doctors right now...
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8 years ago
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Jim: I will pray for baby Garran. I hope it's nothing serious, Garran went through so much already.

I nursed my kid until she was 2 1/2 .. she never throw up. Due to the carrageenan added to soy, I switched from soy milk to cow milk. The result? I had heartburn, sour stomach, and gas ... I could easily throw up with cow-milk (I'm lactose-intolerant).

I use soy milk since I was in my 30's ... until I got stomach upset last year, didn't know that Silk Soy WAS NOT GMO, plus has carrageenan ... Due to consumers' protest, Silk Soy participate in GMO-verification program, plus RECENTLY REMOVE the carrageenan in the ORGANIC line.

I came back to soy milk this month, zero problems. But SOY FORMULA IS NOT RECOMMENDED for babies. There are healthier alternatives: almond milk, coconut or rice milk (least allergic reaction). They also make flax milk, high in omega-3 ... quite tasty with cereal. But the high-protein flax milk with pea-protein added was blah in taste.

Lots of countries don't have cow milk, so babies are either breast-fed, or drink milk made from grains such as rice. The below news was in July 2011, but it took a few years before the ORGANIC SILK SOY is guaranteed non-genetically modified.

http://www.triplepundit.com/2011/06/silk-soymilk-makes-move-gmo-labeling/

"The Non-GMO Project’s verification seal will now appear on all verified Silk Soymilk, Silk Pure Almond and Silk Pure Coconut beverage packaging beginning in August. “With more than 20 million consumers nationwide and an exceptionally high volume of soybeans, all from North America, Silk is a tremendous ally,” says Megan Westgate, executive director of the Non-GMO Project."
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
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Thanks Straw & everyone!

Garran is in the hospital right now getting testing done to see what's going on... Garran has been admitted so will stay in hospital until at least tomorrow. They do not think at this point Garran will need surgery so that's good...

No new updates on Cameron...
rosecanadian
8 years ago
More hospital poking and prodding. Poor Garran. Hopefully they can fix him up, and then he's free from hospitals and can be a nonproblematic baby.

Straw - I sent your article to my sister (who's child has Usher's Syndrome which has RP as part of the disease). She's going to show it to her doctor. It's hard to believe that it's something worthwhile since no one has built upon it. But who knows?? Thanks so much!!!!

Carol
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
Jess, here's what snow can do to a rose bush...lol...
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jessjennings0 zone 10b
8 years ago
hi Jim so glad you enjoyed the roses in my garden...I don't think I like snow that much anymore after seeing the photo you posted with the snow covered rose... will your rose survive this? It is such a beauty! what is the rose called?

And so terribly sorry to hear Garran is in hospital... how terrible... I hope it's nothing serious and will pray for him...

please have a look at these symptoms and remedies (site below) and maybe if you have a good homeopath over where you are you could discuss this with him/her? Homeopathy has no side effects and can be safely used for babies and toddlers. I also pray for little Cameron....it's so sad when a small baby or child suffers...

https://www.homeopathic.com/Articles/Using_homeopathy_for_ailments/Homeopathic_Medicines_for_Indigestion.html
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
So far all hospital found is Garran has severe acid reflux so hopefully that's all it is .....
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Good Jim. I hope he gets better.

I started a new protein post for after this one.

Can you please help me with my Legumes questions?

Thanks Jim

That was so nice how you helped me get out of my self induced pickle in the rose forum. Your garden pictures turned the mood. Yay!!!

Thanks again Jim for being there for me.
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
Ok Sam on the new thread... They were ready to lynch you up from the highest tree...lol
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
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Jess, you would love to experience snow believe me... As soon as the snow melted that rose bush sprung right back into shape....lol

Jess, since its fall and not much going on here do you have anymore great pics from Africa to share???

How about you Straw, Sam, Carol, anything interesting going on?

Not much going on here at all...Going to put the rest of the Christmas lights up soon before it gets to cold...

Oh and Thank you Jess for that link! Great info on that website... Hopefully all Garran has is Acid Reflux but I'll pass this info on...

Going to put Christmas lights up tonight. I have created a easy way to apply lights and it only takes me a short time....I need to buy a few more Christmas light sets also...
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
Christmas Lights are up out front...
rosecanadian
8 years ago
Awesome!! Ours are up too - just not turned on yet. So nice it get it done while it's still warmish.

I watched a show on t.v. about gardening, and they said that the world is running out of Phosphorous, and that in 70 years or so it will all be gone! So we shouldn't use it very much. I haven't read my notes from Straw for awhile, but is Phosporous one of the things you recommend, Straw??

On another gardening show it said to avoid root circling in trees, one can square off the circle of dirt that the tree is in. That prevents root circling. So I'm wondering if that would be a good idea for roses??

Carol
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8 years ago
Straw and Jim were saying when there is too much soluble phosphate in the soil then the leaves will have calcium and magnesium deficiencies in uptake. But rock phosphate is OK cause that is the slow release and needs the microbes break it down for the plant.
jessjennings0 zone 10b
8 years ago
Jim that is such great news! Garran has been in my heart and prayers all the time... I am so relieved to hear it's acid reflux and nothing more serious than that...

something about acid reflux I heard or read about - can't remember now - is not to let the baby sleep on his back after having food/milk...not straight away anyway...that causes the reflux to happen - anyone else heard about that? Chamomile (homeopathy or tea) helps a lot with that as well...no harm to babies, it's such a mild herb....and very relaxing.

the Xmas lights are gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man that must be even more stunning in real life...

that's another thing people over here aren't very big on - having a real Xmas with real Xmas decorations. They prefer having a barbecue (called a 'braai' here) - and go home afterwards. I haven't seen Xmas trees for a long long time...When I was a child my parents and grand parents used to have a big Xmas celebration with trees and lights, even a Xmas father... that is past news now. the 'new generation' doesn't care for any of that...I find that kind of sad...

maybe it's the heat... :-)

maybe because we don't get snow here it just doesn't feel like Xmas anyway....?

I think your'e right Jim...I would love snow... :-) how amazing that the rose bounces right back after that amount of snow...they are such strong and beautiful plants!

I will look in my files for more 'Africa' photo's...hope to see more snow photo's...

about the Phosphorus... I read in an earlier post by Strawberry Hill and a rosarian dr she mentioned as well, that there already is enough of that in the soil, and having too much inhibits mychorizzal fungi?

Am I correct Strawberry Hill?

Due to me being bad at filing I'm struggling to find the exact quote but I found this:

Avoid using high phosphate fertilisers when using mycorrhiza fungi. Low nutrient, slow release organic, natural fertilisers are best.

For rose-tissue analysis, you need 10 times more potassium than phosphorus, and 12 to 15 times more nitrogen than phosphorus, and twice more calcium than phosphorus.

But use of Bone meals as a shrub fertilizer has been questioned by findings that it reduces the formation of micorrhyzal friendly fungi. However, some soils and shrubs are not amenable to this anyway, especially following modern soil cultivation.

If it's Potassium Sulfate that will be depleted soon, Strawberry Hill did a great test with Black Eyed beans - ground up - a fantastic source of Potassium..
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for you Jim

Huge Golden Amaranths and a full moon at dusk

African sunset
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where the white square is on the photo, is a mother whale and calf - my camera is not that great, and then the battery went flat just before they surfaced. These were all taken in Hermanus, a very special little coastal town in SA. Lots of art happening there and wonderful people as well. A whale watching heaven.

I appreciate it that I'm able to share this with you...
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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Great pics Jess those are awesome thanks!...

Soluble phosphate fertilizers are the worse. Miracle gro types...They can reduce micorrhyzal fungi. Other types of phosphates that are released slow are better and more forgiving.

I never seen or read anywhere about phosphates being scarce in 70 years??? But I'll look into that one Carol...

Again, great pics Jess!

Oh wow more great pics! Those are fantastic Jess! Thanks a million for sharing!

Carol found this article on phosphorus running out...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_phosphorus

""""The predominant source of phosphorus comes in the form of phosphate rock and in the past guano. According to some researchers, Earth's phosphorus reserves are expected to be completely depleted in 50–100 years and peak phosphorus to be reached in approximately 2030.[1][4]Others suggest that supplies will last for several hundreds of years.[5] The question is not settled and researchers in different fields regularly publish different estimates of the rock phosphate reserves.[6]""""
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I call this our lone bud...lol

Leaves falling off trees here this time of year...
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oh how beautiful Jim...what a beautiful country you live in.... what a beautiful town...and such a beautiful dog friend!!!!!!!!!! and I love the Fall colors, set of by the blue sky and green grass....Fairy tale land...

is that rose still blooming in the cold your'e experiencing????????? unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

About Phosphorus Jim, Carol, I found this, also in Wikipedia:

Historically-important but limited commercial sources were organic, such as bone ash and (in the latter 19th century) guano.

is bone meal a good source of phosphorus? there's so much of that with the meat industry?
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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Wow Jess! Those wildlife photos are fantastic! Thanks for sharing! I've always heard elephants were hunted for there ivory... And wow look at the long horns on that Gemsbok!

Those are things I do not see here... Only in a zoo can you see these animals around here...Its great seeing them in the wild!

Yep that's the only rose we have left...
rosecanadian
8 years ago
The program also said that using bat guano isn't good because it isn't good for the environment???? Thanks for researching this Jim and Jess. It's a scary thought that there might be a shortage of phosphorous in the world. The thought never crossed my mind. So we don't have to add phosphorous. That's good.

Jess - I love your animal pictures. That SURE is a large gemsbok! I hope there is hope for elephants, rhinos and giraffes (I've heard they're endangered too). Just terrible what people have done to them. I watched a show, and it was talking about giraffes and they said that giraffes are like unicorns - totally improbable and magical. It's hard to believe those animals can survive in such a bleak place.

I got this off Wikipedia - As a slow-release fertilizer, bone meal is primarily used as a source of phosphorus and protein. Finely ground bone meal may provide a quicker release of nutrients than the coarser ground version of bone meal. So that's good.

Carol
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Carol, I'm not big on using fertilizers so not sure what's good & what isn't for native garden soils. I just mimic what nature has done for millions of years and hope for the best it's enough to keep my roses going year after year... If not, I'll make adjustments in the future...

Just going to throw this out there...lol

Do any of you collect anything?

I collect my childhood toys... Here's the only childhood toys I have on display right now: Others are packed away...

These are 12" Gijoe Action Figures I had as a child. These Gi joes were made from 1964-1969... They were made in the USA... One to represent all branches of our armed forces...

These are Navy Gijoe divers and a Navy Gijoe: Also made in USA from 1964-1969...

When the war became unpopular they gave Gijoe life-like hair and beards and called them Adventurers... These were made from 1970-1973... Also made in USA...
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Thank you, Jim, for that fantastic toy-soldiers collection.. they are priceless collectibles for your grandchildren, and it's a good heirloom to pass down to your grandson.

THANK YOU, Jess for the fabulous pics. of South African ocean-front that you took. I always treasure ocean-pics., since we don't have it here. Also thank you, JESS, for the pics. of the beautiful animals in Africa. God made everything so wonderful. People have the myth that we need lots of phosphorus for blooming. NO.. Animal manure have plenty of phosphorus.

THANK YOU, Carol, for the info. about bone meal. Also Thanks, Sam, for mentioning about rock phosphate, a natural mined-mineral from the earth.

For the sake of the environment, I start another thread, "11/8/15: phosphorus in manure & phosphorus factory & air pollution", see below link:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3492784/11-8-15-phosphorus-from-manure-and-phosphorus-factory-and-air-pollution
rosecanadian
8 years ago
Oh that's cool!! And it's nice to see that you don't collect them and leave them in the boxes!

I collect cobalt blue vases. I have them everywhere! I also collect antique perfume bottles. And I guess you can say I collect roses, since I have 50 in the garage!! I used to collect leopard geckos. I used to have about 11 of them. I guess you can say I'm one step away from being a horder! :)

Carol
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Cool on collecting cobult blue vases and antique perfume bottles Carol! My uncle is a horder and has just a 2ft path going through his house...lol

Ok I'm off to Straws new thread: 11/8/15: phosphorus in manure & phosphorus factory & air pollution"
jessjennings0 zone 10b
8 years ago
Before leaving for the new post...

Maybe I collect stray cats - have 9 ...and roses... can't have any beautiful objects like yours - especially not vases...the cats climb on everything and then whatever is there falls down and breaks... :-)

but I love blue (cobalt especially) vases and bottles, and Jim, I adore those Gijoe doll-statues... they are so well made, perfectly rounded of, with so much attention to detail... I have never seen them. we only have Barbie and Ken dolls here...

my brother used to collect Matchbox cars... I never had anything that special...

except my cats and my roses...

yes Carol... how sad what mankind does to nature... horrific....

I am going to delete the post with the elephant photo's until I've contacted my friends to ask their permission to post it permanently :-) so glad you liked seeing that....

please spread the news - stop purchasing ivory...

the sad thing is, when you think about it - all the keys in a piano are made with ivory, that such a beautiful creature had to die to create such beautiful music..ironic isn't it?

all for man's pleasure....
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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Nine cats... Yep you are collecting them Jess...lol

Ok I'm off to Straws new thread: 11/8/15: phosphorus in manure & phosphorus factory & air pollution"