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Beverage Center: good, better, best?
Comments (35)All, I bought a Marvel beverage center 6 years ago for our kitchen to replace a no-name cheapo that froze over (ice sheet on back wall). Frustrated to have paid $1,500 for the Marvel only for it to suffer the same fate 5-3/4 years after buying it. See pic of it below sitting, turned off. Unfortunately, Marvel wouldn't honor the 5 year warranty, so I'm stuck with a decision - pay the $750 (yes, $750) to repair it and risk it failing again, or ponying up $2k+ for one that might last longer. I've been researching these the last few days. After talking to two repair companies, several retailers and the technical folks at SubZero, Perlick and True, I've learned quite a bit about these expensive little bastards. There seem to be three price bands $1000 and under (Danby, GE, Avallon, etc.), the mid-tier ($1k - $2.5k) brands like Marvel, Uline, Frigidaire, Sub Zero (high end of the middle, around $2,500) and Perlick and True (top end, around $3,500). My opinion (I'm not an expert, just synthesizing what I've learned) is that the low and mid tier brands have comparable internals. They differ mostly in terms of features (lighting, stainless, shelving, temp control unit, etc.) Some of the low end ones (like Avallon) do a convincing job of looking like high end professional ones. But as one of my appliance repairpeople said, looks can be deceiving. She (Maywood Appliance Repair in Chicago, Chicago Heating and Cooling) said that there's a difference in the internal, sealed system parts (evaporator, condenser and coils, compressor, etc.) . Some use cooling plate technology (rather than forced air) to cool the inside of the unit which is both inefficient and works the compressor and internal components harder (shortening service life). Some are also marketed as undercounter, but in the fine print (or installation instructions) insist on 3" - 5" around the unit (or the back, at least) to allow it to breathe and to dissipate. In short (according to repairwoman), the low end brands are engineered to be throwaway. Unfortunately, that was the experience I had with my mid-tier Marvel. My father in law has had bad luck with U-Line, too, so lump them in that category. The high end brands like Perlick and True are overengineered and seem to be engineered to last between 5 and 12 years (based on warrantys offered). Both can be bought with stainless interior and exterior, larger and upgraded coils and compressor and better, forced air cooling. This helps them cool down faster, work less hard when doing so, and maintain temp longer. The both claim coated coils to reduce the effects of corrosion. The Perlick Signature has a variable speed compressor that (like newer Air Conditioning compressors) is variable speed so it is more efficient, quieter, cools down faster and uses less energy. SubZero's less expensive, but it has a small (215 BTU) compressor, which worries me. But they have a good warranty and excellent customer service, and claim they are engineered to last 20 years (so why don't they offer a 20 yr warranty?) so maybe it's worth saving $1k versus True and Perlick to get one. I think both of my units failed because they worked too hard to keep cool (my house is set at a normal temp, nothing else unusual about it). I'm still struggling paying a massive premium to get a unit properly engineered for my space. I'll let you know what I decide in the next couple of days. Hope this was helpful!...See MoreWindows: Good, Better, Best, Overpriced
Comments (17)"They also have an Angie's list B rating and a reputation for high pressure lengthy husband and wife sales pitches. We do not want to sit thru that, just a quote. Is this how the replacement window biz sells?" I have really been struggling with this since looking for windows in this house. many of the companies won't even come to the house to give me a quote without my husband. (I'm perfectly capable of getting quotes, researching things, narrowing down companies and then sharing the info with DH to make a choice together. That's how we like it because we would rather his off work time together and with our kids than getting quotes which I can do while he is at work.) One of the 3 companies I have had come (after verifying DH would not have to be there) really pressured me on the phone reminder to have him there and when they came they didn't give me a quote till I called asking for it - I've since learned not to do that. So yes, I think this is how many replacement window biz sell....See MoreGood, better and best for the SF/Fantasy Crowd
Comments (63)>A Spell for Chameleon That one hooked me on to Piers as well, I was in my late teens. I can't imagine any young reader having trouble with it -but then I was reading 'adult books' long before I got my adult library card. (Thank goodness for my older sis!) My parents never censored what I read. They figured if I didn't understand stuff, I'd skip it or ask about it. And if I did understand it, I was old enough to read it. (Read Valley of the Dolls, and was horribly embarrased, at age 12, for my dad to notice and to say that when I'm finished give it to him, as he'd been wanting to read it.) I think a parent has to know her child to decide whats appropriate or inappropriate, but I probably choose the more lenient side, making sure that I give her a chance to talk about the book later with me. But that's just me. I suspect (no, I know) that my feelings would drastically change if I was actually a parent! I lent my boyfriend (later DH) the Xanth books. He hated them, thought them horribly childish and silly (this from a rather childlike and silly person but I digress). So I started re reading them. Oh my - yeah, I see what he means. But I loved them back then. Another horrid sequel: Children of God, after The Sparrow. While I had quibbles with the first book and thought the author made some poor decisions, I liked it enough. I could not finish the other. jan I am not big into mysteries, but if she wrote them, and they are more suspense than 'whodunit' type, I might just have to try them....See MoreStarCraft 2015 Picks: Best Faucet Value
Comments (7)Thanks for posting this info StarCraft. I went with Cifial's Highlands wall mount faucet and shower trim (Hansgrohe hand shower) and couldn't be happier with the combination of quality, value and style. I had to defend my decision with nearly every bath showroom salesperson I met. But thanks to your research that was easy!...See MoreSeysonn_ 8a-NC/HZ-7
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