Well, I work on BIG daries, I own my own beef cows, and my past is in beef operations of all sizes... I can say that producers of all sizes are against the NAIS in any form they choose to present it. For my big dairy customers: It is all they can do to get employees who can write down numbers acuarately enough to use a simple numbered eartag system with any accuracy much less reporting the results to the USDA. No matter what I am trying to look at when I deal with records on big dairies I expect to see a ten-percent margin of error due to employees making mistakes... The USDA has not come up with a way to overcome that and their system won't work until they do. As far as my small beef herd: The hassles of just having the herd itself are almost not worth it. It would just take a little bit of government to get me to throw up my hands and tear out the pasture and plant citrus. As far as my past with beef operations: Ain't no way in **** the USDA is gonna track those animals! I used to help on a ranch whose strategy to control inbreeding was to ride out into the backcountry and shoot every bull over three years old that didn't have a brand... The country was so tough that they couldn't even gather all of their cattle to work them. There are more ranches like that than we realize and they can't survive if they are expected to track every single animal.

trudi_d, It should be Free and an automated JAVA installer script that prompts you to load. I'm unsure what your PC/MAC OS running? Select the OS that's running on your and as it installs, it will prompt you for input. Just use the hot URL link provided at the very bottom. I hope it helps... That may affect the download when you select the link I provided below. In step #1, you have to select the respective operating System(OS) of your computer. Diagnostic Services: For those homeowners interested in getting diagnostic testing for late blight on tomato or other diseases on vegetables in their garden, please contact your state universityÂs plant diagnostic lab service. (These diagnostic services, in most states, require a fee.) It is critical to get potential Late Blight samples to the diagnostic clinic as quickly as possible. Laboratories may be able to fax or e-mail results within 24 hours. NOTE: New Jersey residents can submit samples to Rutgers Plant Diagnostic Lab at: http://njaes.rutgers.edu/plantdiagnosticlab NOTE: New York State residents can submit samples to Cornell Plant Disease Diagnostic Clinic at: http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/Sample%20Type%20Pages/late_blight.htm Webinar announcement: On Thursday, July 2, 2009 from 7:30 to 9:30 PM All are invited to log-on by clicking on the following link at 7:30 on Thursday evening. Session Name TOMATO DISEASE CLINIC Session Type NONE Hosted By Steve Administrator RUTGERS-ADMIN Supervisor SKOMAR Version 8.5 ACADEMIC Session Starts Jul 02, 2009, [Thu] 07:30 PM Eastern (EDT, North America/US) Session Ends Jul 02, 2009, [Thu] 09:30 PM Eastern (EDT, North America/US) May Join Session Jul 02, 2009, [Thu] 07:00 PM Eastern (EDT, North America/US) Session Access RESTRICTED Recording Mode MANUAL Recording Access RESTRICTED Here is a link that might be useful: Elluminate Installer Java software for Webcast

Thanks for the input lov_mkitchen. That is what I was thinking. I keep hearing from everyone that taller is better, but I do so much baking that I am not really convinced. I think I will stick with my instincts and go a bit shorter on my island rather than the standard. My "kitchen" table is actually my dining room table in another room, so a bit of a pita especially when you have a nice smooth counter top to work on instead. I have nothing against laminate, had it in our last place in the city, however in this house with as old as it is we are trying to stay with more "natural" looking materials. With that said, I am not a granite fan and would never do marble or any other material that I couldn't be kind of hard on. I don't like having to tip toe around my counters. I use my kitchen and use it well, reading about people in the kitchen forum wanting to plastic wrap their counters before parties so they don't get damaged is a little laughable. That is a good tip on tomato juice. I have yet to make tomato juice. Usually I am too sick of peeling tomatoes to invest any more time in tomato juice but maybe next year if I don't have to peel I will try your trick. I also learned at the END of this season that if I freeze my tomatoes (didn't know I could do that another reason to love GW) that when they defrost the peels come right off and are ready to can in say Nov when you have less to do. I think I will try that next year with my new large freezer. Of course with a finished kitchen next year AND an actual dishwasher hooked up canning my tomatoes will be a breeze compared to this years harvest ;-)

Hi Jancy, Try this link https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/recording/3002845795106713347 I think this only works if you registered, which you did, so it should be good to go. If anyone who didn't register wants to see this, then try the link and maybe you can register and then watch it? I'm not sure. Part 2 of the series https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/4243256538516125185 Part 1 https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/9193087462458587649 They'll be posting more official links to these on their site at some point, but for now these will tie us over. thanks!