HW floor repair job - Looking for thoughts or advice.
MDLN
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Comments (11)If the second sub made it "better", I'd hate to have seen just how bad your floor looked after the first guy. Honestly, I think that is the single worst floor staining job I've ever seen. The builder might want to find out from the first sub exactly what brand of stain was used then contact the manufacturer. It may be possible to chemically strip the stain out of the floor. I had never heard of chemically stripping stain but someone on this forum recently posted about an issue they'd had where builder accidentally put exterior stain on their hand-peeled interior log posts and, after contacting the stain manufacturer, they found out that the stain could be removed chemically. I'm linking below to her thread. If the stain can't be removed chemically, I would imagine that the only option is to sand the floors down till they reach fresh wood and then start over. I do hope your builder steps up to the plate to fix this. But, if he tries to either deny that this is his responsibility or attempts to convince you that your floors are fine and that you're being too picky, ask him if he would be happy if you posted his NAME, his BUSINESS NAME and business address along with these pictures (and a picture of HIM) on this forum and on every other home-building forum you can find on the internet. I know I WOULD NEVER hire a builder who had left a previous client with such a mess. Good luck. Here is a link that might be useful: GW thread about a similar stain problem...See MoreHW floor installation cost ... seems very high
Comments (19)Definitely go with an installer that does high quality work. Find one that is certified and has good references. A hardwood floor will last the life of the home and it needs to be done right the first time. Probably the most overlooked aspect of installing any hard surface floor is the often tedious job of leveling the subfloor. Even though this is time consuming work required in almost all homes, the subject is glossed over in the DIY shows and install literature. It was the most difficult part of my DIY install. Flooring suppliers- your installer will likely have wood suppliers they have experience with and trust. They also have the option of marking up the price they pay by whatever they like. That's just the way it works. For example, our auto mechanic charged us $20 for new lug nuts that retail online for $8. The Graf Brothers random width (3",4",5", 7") red oak #1 common flooring I purchased directly was not as high in quality as I would have liked. There were too many boards high/low on width and too many high on moisture content. It made my install a PAIN having to work around this. If I did it over again, I would spend more (I paid $3.30/sf delivered) and go with a supplier that offered higher milling standards and better moisture control. Saving money- white oak and black walnut are the hot American hardwoods right now. The price of both has gone up significantly in the last few years. Red oak, on the other hand, has not been popular and the price has dropped significantly. Stained, red oak and white oak are almost identical. Red oak tends to have slightly more color variability in the natural form and also more variability in growth rates (ring spacing). It's not quite as hard as white oak, but hard enough for any active family. Finishes- your installer will recommend a finish for the wear your floor will encounter. I went with a tung/oil resin mixture, but this has a MAJOR disadvantage of slow dry time and smell. The commercial water-based finishes are probably the best choice for most people. A random width hardwood floor is unique looking and very beautiful. We are still happy with ours after 2 1/2 years: Here is a link that might be useful: Random width R&Q red oak floor...See MoreOpinions and advice requested on tile job (Warning: lengthy)
Comments (27)I appreciate those who have stuck with me though this ordeal. I’m happy to report that the shower is done and I hope to never have to revisit this in my lifetime. I’ll let the next owner deal with tearing it out (that would make 3 times) and renovating to their taste. From this experience I’ve learned that my DH thinks I’m much too picky. Last week it got to the point that he was mad at the world and I was unfortunately the one who took the brunt of it. As I feared, he ended up in the hospital with chest pains and sky rocketing BP. I honestly think those 3 days took more out of me than when he had by-pass surgery while we were building this house. Wine is my friends. Grouting happened on Thursday and caulking on Friday. Plumber came Monday along with the painter. Today the shower doors were installed. I’m disappointed that I didn’t get my frameless door, but this is better than a shower curtain and more than half the price of the door I wanted. I’ll probably never take a shower or bath in this BR, so I’m okay with the result. And more importantly, DH is happy with the finished product. So I promised photos. Certainly not Houzz worthy, but it works. DS will be happy to have his BR back...See MoreSeeking Advice - UV Oil vs Aluminum Oxide HW Floors
Comments (3)I think you've answered your own question: " We don't like cleaning floors and would prefer low maintenance " UV cured oil floors are TOUGHER than traditional oil floors....but NO WHERE NEAR the 'low-maintenance" you state you want. Take your sample (buy a box if you have to) and then drop some OIL on it (salad oil, butter, margarine, mayonnaise, peanut butter...whatever you can THINK OF that the kids could 'leave behind') and let it sit for 30 minutes. Now try cleaning it up. Now use the SPOT CLEANING oil on it (which you MUST have on hand). Now use the MASTER OIL on the spot (which you MUST HAVE on hand). See how much you 'like' the look of: A. The oil stain without cleaning, and B. The oil stain AFTER you 'fixed it If EITHER ONE bother you then stay away from oiled floors. And remember: the WIRE BRUSHED finishes (which MOST PEOPLE like) are HELL ON EARTH to deal with - regardless of the finish. I'm a lazy cleaner. Which is why I prefer a good ol' fashioned Aluminum Oxide SMOOTH finished floor in a house with kids and 'low-maintenance' parents. Check out this ACTIVE post from someone who purchased the AO finish on WIRE BRUSHED finish: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5912382/food-oil-stain-on-engineered-hardwood#25506828 They are at their wits end...and it has been LESS than a year. Ask yourself if you are "OK" with this type of issue. Because it WILL happen with UV oiled finishes and it WILL happen with Wire Brushed AO products....See MoreMDLN
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