Red Oak problems. Not sure what to do.
Barry L
8 years ago
I had 4 red oaks planted about 3 months ago. Was told to water them with 20 gallons a day for the first year. I'll admit I've missed days here and there, but I don't think these problems are from lack of water, but I'm not sure.
Any help identifying what's going here and how to fix it is very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Oh, these are low res versions of the pics, I have high res versions if needed. I included a few pics of the trunk as well as how it was planted, in case that helps.
Thanks!
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8 years ago
wisconsitom
8 years agohamburglar1
8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoI planted a 1' nuttall oak in spring '14 and took good care of it. Late in the summer '14, it developed similar browning of the leaves that you show in pic #2. They all fell off prematurely. So when it was super late to leaf out this past spring, I assumed that it was toast. It finally sprang to life a month after other oaks and now it is growing quite well, with healthy, dark green leaves. So whatever it was, the tree righted itself. Your tree looks better, despite harsher transplant shock. And bigger transplants usually look sketchy for a couple years. So I would not be too concerned at this point.
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