Adenium KO and Adeniumcenter are awesome sellers on eBay. I don't have any experience buying from Adenium King but have seen his products and always wondered about the quality of his seeds. Keep us posted, I wish you high germination rates.

Tracy

I have used ebay and another UK based seller with mixed success. But now I have seen the light and have found quality seed suppliers. Adeniums centre I have used and was very quick to deliver. So far seeds are popping so I know they are fresh so that's a trusted seller to think about. I have also used Orient Adenium (rinoa) but not sowed those seeds yet as they just landed yesterday, also ordered from Mr Ko but they haven't arrived yet and Kesorn is another one, cant remember his website though. All these sellers have been used by us adenium geeks on here with great success, so as long as you give the seed the environment they require then you won't go wrong with one or more of the above sellers :)

Bob or you are using king adenium I have had real good luck with them if you will look on his web site he will tell you the dealers to not buy from

roger

Yup, king Adenium. He seemed to be honest on his ebay description, making people aware of fake colored adenium flower photos out there. I have only had the seeds down for 24 hours so they should be popping any day hopefully. I was nervous about the white giant seeds because they didn't sink when I put them in water to soak like the black knights did. But I also didn't do the actual viability test(which isn't very reliable anyway.) Only had them in water for around 3 hours (maybe a bit less.) Hopefully that wont make a difference though. He seemed like a good ebay seller, and it was an accident that I bought from him, I originally aimed to purchase from adeniumcenter. I guess I will try Adenium Center next time as well as well as king adenium. I'm glad to hear you've had success!

i never soak my seeds. i just stick them vertically (up and down) into my mix of cactus mix with a liberal handful of perlite in a plastic food tub. i water, but do not soak and place them in a zip bag, in the dark, on top of my water heater. have had great success with this method. also use it for tomatoes, peppers and clivia seed. takes 3 or so days for the adenium to germinate … have ordered from, ko, center and store with no hassles. ko throws in a phyto for free

dave

Fockea edulis looks like an interesting plant to have, Bob. I'm tempted. After my on-going conophytum battle I may need something less irritating than mesembs. 25 seeds though! that's a lot.
All my arabicums are from a UK seller, probably Adenium Store or something. but on eBay i've only ever bought from Mr Ko. I can vouch for the durability of the plants that grow from his cultivars.

Pagan

Bob, looking good. Fockea edulis are easy to grow. I have one grown from a seed back in 2005. But beware, in my experience, the species is prone to attracting spider mites.

Hi Bob, nice plants...not that I know about those...but adenium seeds (thai soco & black giant I bought from AdeniumSeeds.com, Mr.Kesorn.He has a an okay website and is available on email.

Pagan, I think I might try Mr Ko. next time. I've been hearing lots of good things about Mr Ko's plants. I love Fockeas! There are several different types I'd like to get. I only have edulis although the parent plant from the person I got the seeds from looks more like a Fockea Capensis? Martin, do you know if I would see the difference in the leaves right away? I'll be vigilant with looking out for spider mites! Pagan, Yes I know it is a lot, but I am in school right now for horticulture and I am going to give them out around Christmas with little directions attached. For some reason I prefer Adenium Arabicum to Obesum(even though I know they are very close to being the same.) I've had bad luck with Obesums in the past. I am going to start seeds in the spring again and might give it another shot. For some reason I am just extremely attracted to the Arabicum, maybe because my very first one I got this past spring was an Arabicum at a cactus club now I have about 7 arabicum and 2 somalenses and 1 a. multiflorum. I built them a hoop house to over winter them in. I live in Sacramento, ca zone 9 and it can dip into the low 30*F even the 20*sF some times. So I built a hoop house that is 15 ft long roughly 11 ft wide and 9 and a half feet tall. Double wrapped it. and made a mini hoop house type structure on the inside. The nights are dipping down into the low 50s so I cover them at night right now. I also love Adenium Multiflorum All about Africa Plants has them for $3.50 I bought one but am going to buy several more come spring. I love buying plants from them. they also have A. somalense and A. Arabicum for under 6 dollars each! Im starting day two of my seedlings no sign yet. but I am a very impatient person when it comes to my seeds sprouting! I am also thinking about switching to an ebb flow system for my Adeniums. there was another thread on her about someone growing them this way. I might experimenter a little with that. well its early and im ranting so Ill tty all later!

Hey everyone, I just tried to put an order in for Adenium Center for 5 packs of seeds on ebay. Unfortunately he doesn't combined shipping by the "Add to Cart" Option. Followed with the "Request price from seller" option. I emailed him and he proposed I just go ahead and pay the 20 dollars in shipping and he can refund me later, however I can't be out the cost on my card because I reached my budget buying the seeds. They said they could see whats in my basket if I put it in my cart and go to pay now, but don't actually pay. the items had been in my cart all night. So I this morning I clicked pay now but didn't go as far as paying because I know my card can't take the extra charge with out it either not working or over drafting my card. Is this buyer playing games with me? or will he be able to see my items and send me an invoice, I am about to go see if Adenium King has their request price from buyer option active.

Hi Bob, if it is Adeniumcenter on eBay (Kukuan) is very good. Have ordered many from her and always good with me.

I am surprised that you cannot make multiple purchases and not pay, then select request an invoice from them. Then they usually send through a total later. Shipping cost maybe a few cents more per seed pack?

Rick

Bob she will refund you the difference. I think it is 50 cents for shipping for each additional pack of seeds. She is good about refunding quickly. Not sure if that helps .

I understand the refund thing , I sent an email this morning asking if she could see what was in my cart and that I don't want to do the refund thing, I can't afford to be out the 20 dollars shipping right now. I could get only part of my order but by the time the CC company puts the money back on my card it will be 3-7 days and I may need to either get a second shipment (which would require 4 more dollars)or hold off my original shipment til I can order the rest of my seeds by an extra week almost.

I sent another email saying I would just like an invoice for the items In my box, that I would not like to pay 24 dollars total in shipping. All they did was send me a message saying that they see my items in the inbox. no directions on how to buy. no invoice in my email, from paypal. I tried the request a price from seller again but ebay says they don't have that option set up.

So I suppose I will just go with Adenium King again, which sucks I really wanted to try adenium center.

Hi guys just wandering how's the result in regards with flowers from adenium center and king adenium.We all know they will not come out exactly the same as the mother plant but anyone care to share what they came up with from the seeds they bought from them?Thanks so much.

Adenium KO

Karla.shop

both on Ebay, good luck with both

onedot1 on ebay, zero germination, but they were cheap. Ordered on a lark

RareExoticSeeds - not ebay, a web site, but good experience with them.

I bought seeds from king adenium and adeniumcenter at eBay sellers are both from Thailand. Great germination but wandering how's the result with flower colors.Thanks guys

I have purchased seeds from adeniumcenter many years ago now. Excellent germination percentages, but resemblance to parent plants Low.

Adenium_Ko and Orient Adeniums are getting very high results in close comparison to parent plants.

Rick

Thank you Rick,I have bought a lot from Ko and orient adenium and Yang Ming and got a great result.I resently bought a lot of seeds from both king adenium and adeniumcenter as I want to try something new, hopefully I'll get good result, as long as they will not come out ordinary I'm fine with I paid quit a lot for the seeds from them.

Best regards,

Ms.Ghen

ko and then again i have had very good germ rates from him. have also bought from a_king and a_center, but have not sprouted any of those seeds yet ...

In late summer I purchased 10 A. Obesum seeds for $6.50 from eBay seller therealflorida101. 9 germinated, so 90% germination rate. The plants are healthy but clearly no flowers yet. Still waiting to see what the blooms will look like.

From Amazon seller exotic-plants I purchased 4 seeds. 2 dioscorea and 2 A. Multiflorum for $13. None of which germinated.

Bob, can you provide the link for the "All About Africa Plants" website, please? I'd like to check out their multiflorums.

Thanks,

Tyler

I got most of my seeds from KO directly, or best_plumeria on Ebay. I had almost 100 percent germination from both, with only a few from KO that were duds. I also got some seeds from Rinoa that less than half germinated but she replaced them and I had almost 100 percent germination on the second batch. I also had a few seeds from US suppliers that were about 50% germination or less. In total I started more than 400 seeds in August and better than 90% of them are going strong.

I bought from best_plumeria as well, and had good germination rates.

I don't know how great the genes are, but I definitely got a bunch of different growth patterns, so they weren't just random pink seeds chucked in a bag.

Sellers like KO and Rinoa are probably the way to go for specific traits, but best_plumeria lets you get a bunch of different strains for pretty cheap.

The seeds come in individually marked bags and it's a good way to get a bunch of random traits without spending a ton.

To All first time buyers thinking of purchasing seed from Thailand etc..... USA customs requires a Phytosanitary certification , if not included customs will confiscate and destroy the seeds. You will receive the empty package with a note from customs explaining.

Please write to my e-mail box: adenium@adenium.com.tw,

my translator will reply you as soon as possisble.

I got a dorset horn out of a mixed color seed pack from gardnerparadise on ebay.

King Adenium - Had a bad experience. Bought special seeds - (for hundreds of dollars) but all the seeds gave the normal single flower plants and not the plants thought I bought. Complained without success (they told me I was looking for freebies). If anyone has a seller and the seeds give the actual advertised plants please let me know! I asked to return the not used seeds (last (> 200 USD shipment) respons was no. No returns accepted. Buy somewhere else.

I also bought 100s of seeds and all turned out single pink with 1 double pink had to use them for grafting

If you have a seller that sells seeds that do give the plants they promissed , please let me know!

Adenium KO and Orient Adenium (Rinoa) are both pretty reputable. I don't know if KO is on ebay anymore but you might be able to find him online or someone might know his website.

I think KO backcrosses so the seeds are more likely to turn out like the parents.

Anyways, adeniums don't come true to seed. Any adenium grown from seed will be different from the parent, although hopefully it will be similar. Pink is sort of the genetic default for adeniums.

On the other hand, reputable sellers know this and won't charge a fortune for seeds. Unless you are buying 400 or 500 seeds or more, you shouldn't be spending more than 100 dollars.

If you're growing adenium from seed, you will get pinks. That's kind of a given. There are also different degrees of reputability with adenium sellers. Since seeds take can take a long time to flower, it is hard to vet newer sellers for anything other than germination rate. A number of adenium sellers have good reputations for good germination.

Adenium Ko and Orient Adenium are the only ones I know of that have good reputations for seeds turning out something like their parents.

King adenium is really expensive for seeds. If someone is charging a dollar or more per seed, that's fairly overpriced, even if they say the parents are a rare variety.

Thanks a lot!

No problem. Also, to put things in perspective, Rinoa and Adenium KO rarely charge more than about 30 cents (USD) per seed. If you're growing from seed you usually won't get something exactly like the parent, but usually with those two you'll get at least one plant that looks close or is at least obviously not just a standard pink.

Looking at King Adenium's website, they're absurdly expensive and they even claim to have stabilized strains of dorset horn. I've never heard of someone claiming to have perfectly stabilized strains before.

They noticably don't make the same claim about many of their other seeds and I suspect that it's possible they did give you seeds from those parent plants, but I doubt they have done anything to stabilize them. When that happens, the vast majority of seeds will turn out pink.

You should at least get at least a few non-pinks from a batch of seed from the sellers I mentioned (the odds are a lot better than the 1/1000 you get with most seed, but still not perfect), and they don't cost an absurd amount.

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Can anyone tell me if they have had much success with best_plumerias seeds producing plants like the pictured parents thay have been around since 2008 at least so i am hoping they have good genes i have about 1600 seedling and am really hoping the 130 different flower varieties i bought don’t all give me pink flowers

I had bad experience with king adenium.Bought 2000 seeds,germinarion was 15%.Seeds were junk. My next order was already places,when i complained and promise open ebay claim.After that they send good seeds with 95% germination rate.But they lost reputation and i will not trust them anymore.

yes the seeds are good haha however the colour well do not expect anything other than pink this seller kingadenuim is a scammer the clours yellow purple etc are not what i got not even 1 in over 500 seeds only pink .. good luck to anyonyone buying feom them..

I agree.I don't trust them...

Hello everyone,

I hope someone could provide me some information.

1. Please let me know if all the grafted Adeniums that you have purchased from Rinoa produced the same type of color and shape that were advertised for these plants.

2. How long did they take to flower after you received grafted plants?

3. Anyone had experience with growing from seeds purchased from Mr Ko or Ms Rinoa, please inform seeds from which supplier have a better chance to grow into what are on the pictures. I still love pink flowers but I think if 90% of them would turn pink, then it would be too much.

4. Can anyone comment if the adeniums which turn pink, is it the same kind of pinkish flower, or there is a variety in different form and shade of pink?

5. Was it ok to import grafted plants to the USA?

Thank you.

Sunny

Hi Sunny most grafted plants from rinoa will bloom true when you are planting seeds you never know what you will get its getting better but you will still get a lot of pink it will depend on what color seeds you plant purple seeds you may get 1 or 2 purple plants from a 100 seeds

roger

Hello Roger,

thanks for the info. do you know if it is legal to ship plants from another country to the USA? I dont want to spend $200-300 and plants would end up being confiscated by the US custom.

Sunny

You can bring in 10 plants rinoa knows what is needed to get by customs what colors are you looking at

I am interested in all colors, single and double.

Here are my adenium growing from seeds, 7 weeks old. Some of them are already 4 inch, caudex 3.5 cm high and 1 cm width with mutiple branches. Color is unknown. I purchased seeds from a seller in FL on Etsy.