New Condenser and Coil needed for 5 ton unit
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Comments (3)Thanks. I did call and let the second guy know - he was appreciative. He actually is very experienced, but I guess the model number caught him this time. As it happens (per Carrier), the difference in the model number ....F030, which is 2.5 ton vs. ...F003, which is for 2.5 UP TO 3.5 ton, makes all the difference here....See Moretrying to get a 2.5 ton unit to work with a 4 ton unit
Comments (19)To argue whether or not someone has a license to do HVAC work or not. To consider what makes a pro a pro versus someone with just a license. And how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll sucker? You only have a few metrics from which to judge someone who does this kind of work. You have to hope they are telling you the truth. I am very vocal about my skills and how long I have been doing this. You can go to Texas license board and view my license number to show the number is mine. I have a youtube channel that has been in existence since very early when I started the business, another way to check. Will you be able to do these sorts of things for every contractor? NO. I take things to the 'whole nother level' as the old MAD TV skit portrayed. (Keegan Michael Key) The characters on the side of my van, in my advertising were all created by yours truly. So outside of experience what is there: PASSION. If a contractor is passionate about what he does --- what does that mean. That is the easiest way I can tell you the difference. (The difference you can't compare via what something costs or doesn't cost.) If you're only in business to make money, passion is a waste of time. That's the point. I'm here posting to a board on a post in which this is not my customer and probably never will be. Passion. (So you understand the situation.) One of my characters is showing #1. This means more than what you think. Originality. I don't follow the mold. You either like this or you don't. I am a take or leave it kind of guy. I don't sell gimmicks, I sell service first and foremost, and I charge for it. Knowledge. ---------- Stipulations: If you hire me to change a part of your system, that part comes with a warranty. Part and labor if you want to pay for the extended labor I can sell you that as well - your choice. (conditions may apply) The part or part(s) of your HVAC system that are replaced are covered by the warranty. Warranty does not include maintenance related repairs. Warranty does not include the older parts of your system. If you want a system wide warranty, buy a complete HVAC system. Which will cost you more money, that is the trade off. Again your choice, you choose. --------- Because I know what I am doing, you do not get to decide what is fair or not fair in the event of another failure. So if the guy the OP hired failed to do this or that and *if* he admits that he made a mistake that's up to him to correct it. If I make a mistake I correct it and 99% of the time I correct it at the jobsite before I leave. So most of the time my customers never even know a mistake was made. This single advantage to the unskilled vs. skilled set me apart. How skilled is someone from a larger company? How will you know? *you won't* Example: you install the condenser and go check the refrigerant charge and the pressures do not look right. (If the pressures do not look right, it's not going to 'work') --- you have to *know* how to fix these kinds of problems. If you don't know, the result of this discussion on a forum board is likely the result. A HVAC installer is not likely to know, so you understand the complexities of this job and the difference from a installer, a tech and a licensed contractor. The installer is bottom rung. I do all three positions - and I charge for it. What do you want? A headache or something that works? Your choice. Anyone can do HVAC repair, even a home owner. This doesn't mean it will be done right. So saying you're a pro and actually being one --- what conclusions can you draw from this post? #Ray is one in a million? two million? If I am not please direct me to a post on this board that has half the posts I do that shows them as being a pro and actually doing this type of work *professionally*. Outside of all that I am not going to go down the path of thinking this guy you hired did something wrong, maybe he did, maybe he didn't ----- maybe the situation was fraught with failure from the get go because it sounds like the system is oversized for the structure. This again is the part in which knowing what will work and what won't. I don't sell jobs in which I think there is going to be some kind of debilitating problem. Whether that helps or not? I'll leave it to the consensus of the board to determine....See More5 ton evaporator coil with 3 ton condenser and furnace
Comments (16)What is happening in 2023? R22 has been in phase out mode for well over 12 years now. The current refrigerant that replaced R22 known as R410a is going to be phased out. California enters this phase first. No new R410a installations in CA starting in 2023. R410a begins it's phase out with strict rules than the aformentioned R22 Freon. (no dry units like with R22). Texas is likely to enter this realm in 2025 at the latest. The refrigerants replacing R410a isn't much better than that of R410a. Two competing versions R32 & R454b both of which are mildly flammable. How flammable? mildly. If you choose R32 solution, that is likely to be phase out sooner because it is mildly more offending than R454b. But either of these choices shelf lifes will be short. Maybe 15 years, maybe 20. R22 is cost prohibitive now. If you have a unit that uses R22 --9 times out of 10-- and you spring a leak -- you buy a R410a unit now. Because? The new units have yet to arrive! ( this is assuming you can even find what you want now.) So in short order anything you buy now will essentially be obsolete "over night". This primarily will only effect you if you spring a refrigerant leak. BUT, refrigerant leaks nowadays are more common than 20 years ago. If you're curious what, where, how and why this is happening? I made a video about it embedded below for your convenience. Note: this video is only a starting point... Part 1....See MoreDoes it really cost $5k to replace a 2.5 ton condenser?
Comments (11)Aly, The Guardian is garbage in my opinion. It's a micro channel condenser. I would view that thing as only a temporary solution. Don't expect a miracle out of that thing. I had a guy here in my area contact me that had an old R22 Goodman condenser where the coil was flaking apart. People razz ma tazz on Goodman brand, but aside from that condenser coil flaking apart the thing was still running. This guy really needed all new equipment, inside and out, not to mention duct work as well. So that's what I originally quoted him. A month or so went by and he contacts me about just replacing the condenser and doing as you suggest going with the Guardian and using R407c. Given the problems with micro channel I told him no. I told him I wanted to put him in a better position so he won't have to replace that condenser out side again in relatively quick fashion (less than 10 years most likely). He doesn't plan to own the home beyond about 3 years. I told him look you're gonna have to sell this house to someone else. So I installed another Goodman R410a condenser and converted his old coil to use R410a. This requires skill to do, most HVAC companies have installers doing this stuff and so they lack the expertise this kind of stuff requires. It also contains risk that the coil may leak refrigerant and if so -- it will have to be replaced at additional cost. In some cases what I did here CAN NOT BE DONE. Realize this requires not only skill, but also experience. Things can go all kinds of bad if not done properly. There is risk, I don't carry that risk -- the home owner does. If that Indoor coil or whatever fails then it's going to cost more to fix it and that fix is most likely going to be more new equipment. So why would I do that? I fixed his unit before. I fixed his unit again. It breaks again I fix it again. The nature of an AC repairman. What ever you do, it will break again. But picking better pieces will make that less likely. NJ is a lighter use climate than my neck of the woods in Katy, Texas. So if I lived there and had the experience of that climate I might think the Guardian had a better chance. In fact that guy called me back a few weeks ago to replace 1 duct that had come loose and it was so crusty it would just crumble to pieces. The AC was working just fine and in record breaking triple digit heat here. RunTru is chinese made, although it's a stretch that even the Trane brands are that great. I just replaced one this past weekend not even 10 years old had an Alliance compressor in it. Trane is no where near what it once was -- it's comparable to any brand these days in terms of quality. Dealers are just selling it for the brand recognition is all. The cost? It was only marginally more than your Guardian quote, but that also included replacing one duct as well as a new emergency drain pan for the E-coil in the attic. The most important part aside from cost? That it will work. (blows cool) I service the Katy, Texas area....See MoreCompumom
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