Collecting Nyssa sylvatica seed
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Looking for Nyssa sylvatica
Comments (0)If you have any of these seeds you are welcome to what little I have on my list. If you don't want anything and you are willing, I would send a self addressed envelope with stamps for the return trip. Thanks, Chris...See MoreBest time to plant Nyssa Sylvatica in the South
Comments (7)This is one tree i have had difficulty transplanting bae root. I have never outright killed one but the first two I tried bare root in the fall died back to ground level then resprouted. I chose a leader on the first and attempted to move it the next year as I had changed plans. Well the fella had quite the difficult to remove tap root and poof, same thing. Next bare root Nyssa a virtually identical experience. Loving the tree and loving pain I tried another one this year! This time a locally bought four footish wildprairiefire or some cultivar in a pot and transplanted a earlier, just after the heat of summer if i recall. That fella never missed a beat. It retained leaves till late in the season and looked great. We will see about the soring lol but the twigs look fine. So I would try spring and possibly a SMALL potted transplant if i had my choice again....See MoreTree seed collection thread
Comments (32)Johnny "conifer_50" posted a method for you... I don't recall which thread. You need to soften the pulp to extract the seed which means you'll likely soak in water and then either squish the pulp off with your hands or some other way. My favorite method by far is using a power washer... but you need a screen that whatever seed you're cleaning cannot pass thru. For walnuts I use a tall sided flat with holes in the sides and on the bottom and blast away. I don't know what you'd use for a small, magnolia seed. Likely some sort of contraption you made yourself from hardware cloth. A box made with 2x4's that's no taller than 3.5" inches would be perfect. Put the hardware cloth over the bottom and top of the 2x4's and leave a way to open one side... how you'll do that you'll have to think about it. Even if you have to use screws to open and close the top. I'd also run a furring strip along the bottom, base, of the 2x4's to elevate it off the ground. Then hammer away... Dax...See MoreAnyone growing Nyssa sinensis?
Comments (54)I have some potentially bad/sad news to add to this thread. After buying two seedling plants of Nyssa sinensis, I received a phone call from a Berkeley nursery where I had left word that I was looking for Nyssa sinensis. After we straightened out that it was sinensis, not sylvatica they got back to me indicating they had sourced one at a wholesaler, that it was a bit unsightly, neglected, but it was Nyssa sinensis. We drove to Berkeley, took the tree in a 15 gallon container for $195 plus tax, bridge tolls and gas. We did some judicious pruning which took away a lot of the ugliness, sorted out what should be a good header and sat down to wait. It has turned out to be a very beautiful tree and I’ve been super pleased. Until this week when I saw how different were the spring leaves. The tree from Berkeley has smaller shiny leaves. The seedling trees have significantly larger, dull leaves with considerable bronzing. Looking up the numerous descriptions of leaf size and other characteristics of sylvatica and the fewer of sinensis, the various descriptions of sylvatica closely fit our Berkeley tree while the descriptions of sinensis closely fit our seedling trees from Oregon, now 4’ and 5’ tall. i have an iOS app for plant identification. It consistently identifies the Berkeley tree as sinensis. It has several different identifications for the seedling trees from Oregon, doending on which photo I submitted. . For example, Avocado, Emmenoptyris henryi, diospyros virginiana, Hamelin patens, Hymenodictyon flaccidum, another avocado, etc. but never sylvestris or sinensis. I am checking to see if sinensis is in their plant database. I suspect not. But significantly, it isn’t identifying any of the photos I submitted as sylvestris! i strongly suspect I’ve been mistakenly growing sylvestris the last few years! Tell me what you think. Here are leaves of the Berkeley tree. I can’t easily take many photos because the leaves are too high on the tree. Here are leaves of the Oregon tree. In contrast, I can easily get many photos. The leaves of the Oregon tree perfectly match the dimension cited for sinensis at 6” long by 3” wide. They are also duller and have much bronzing. All the leaves for the Berkeley tree match the smaller dimension cited for sylvestris: “The leaf shape is oval, elliptical or obovate. The leaf upsite is green and glossy. The leaf is 5-12 cm (2 – 4.7 in) long. The leaf margin is wavy and smooth.”...See Morehairmetal4ever
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