Are your clothes clean to your satisfaction? Then, you're using enough detergent. My rule of thumb with my old Maytag and with my he front loader: start with half of what the manufacturer recommends and adjust as needed with or without your preferred additives. Manufacturer wants to sell soap. My water is very soft so a little detergent goes a long way whether it's the washer or the dishwasher.

See May that's what I mean. .its sometimes h ard to know because slipperiness is a factor that the water was conditioned enough to hold dirt ect in suspension but it doesn't mean that enough was added for there to be enough enzymes and bleaches to do their job expecially if the person has soft water, so sometimes 1/8'th of a cup in a top loader with soft water may give you slippery water, but it may also not give enough enzymes to break down dirt and stains. I guess it all depends on water chemistry and trial and error, of course along with type of chemicals and water temp..everything would have to be in balance. This isn't something that was a concern to me until I actually thought about it lol. I used to just dump an amount of detergent in, feel the water and determine by the slipperiness until it was brought to my attention that just because the water is slippy does not mean I added enough detergent. .it just means I added enough to condition the water.lol...

Yes Poppy my clothes are clean so I must be adding enough detergent lol..I know never to follow the manufactures amounts, yep they want to sell.

Thank you both for responding

Pink--You need to stop worrying about slick water and soap suds and concentrate on more important things like which wine you are going to open after 5. LOL (You know I am just kidding)--well--sorta--LOL. That's what I do.

Sparky, lol...after the day I've had I need wine. Maybe not such a bad idea after I get the boys to bed, except no wine glass I'm going straight for the large plastic mcdonalds cup...super sized! Lol

I heard that !!! LOL

Kids are in bed, mcDonalds cup filled, and load of jeans are washing. Pretty soon I'll be singing Tiny Bubbles.

Pink I have often wondered the same. Thanks for bringing it up. I just go with how slippery the water is and how much suds are on top of the water. As a rule, to line 2 is sufficient for Wisk HE and TIde turbo and 2 tblsp. of Powder. Although sometimes I get a blanked of suds on some things but it seems to rinse out well. But I guess as long as things come out smelling fresh and clean and no stains then it's ok .

THank you Beagle...you can use only 2 tablespoons of powder detergent? In a top loader, wow. I can guarantee my clothes would not be clean on that amount and I have soft water. But ya I get a blanket of suds sometimes also, what I like to see is a few bubbles on top here and there but not covering the water completely..I'll say though that even if I overdose by the time the SQ goes thru the spin and spin rinse the rinse water is crystal clear. This is a wonderful washer I see now why you love yours.

Pink:--For me, and others will disagree but thats ok, you will like the spin/drain much better that that awful neutral drain. I have owned both, I know which worked best for me. Noticeable difference in clean cloths I saw.

Sparky I agree with you I like the spin drain better, I have seen a noticable difference going from neutral drain to spin drain...first the deep rinse is night and day difference for me..I often had to do a second rinse in my neutral drain, I haven't yet had to with the speed queen. Also I did a load of black slacks a few days ago, In my neutral drain there would have been lint on the clothes. I found no lint on this load. This morning I did a twin comforter, deep wine colored, again no lint, and again it would have had lint on it with my old machines neutral drain. This is just a few examples, but I noticed a difference with this spin drain right away, in my opinion my clothes are left cleaner and much less lint left to deal with.