Anyone in Mid-Atlantic growing Lithocarpus henryi?
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
8 years ago
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Lingonberries/Cranberries in Southeast/Mid-Atlantic?
Comments (23)-Shazaam I'm in central VA (east of the Blueridge) and I've managed to grow Howes cranberries to limited success. This was their first full year in the ground. I ordered mine from Cranberry Creations and got larger fruiting plants last fall. Mine overwintered and fruited this year. However, the problems came this summer. I was away from home for most of the summer and they got overrun with weeds. As stated before, they don't like weeds. Then in August, the summer rains let up and it got real dry. While cranberries don't have to grow in water, the do need to constantly be in a moist soil/sand mix. The problem was that I had planted them in a mixture that was too high in sand, which dried out quickly during our August - September dry spell. Both plants lost their fruit and one is currently recovering while the other is pretty beat up. I think both plants will make it through the winter, though I am not hopeful for any fruit this coming year as they lost so many upright vines, which is where the fruit is produced. I think the fact that I got larger, fruiting plants was key. Cranberry Creations sells very large plants compared to other outlets which sell much smaller plants. The large one established easier and since they weren't as young, they were able to take more of a beating from the summer heat/weeds. Takeaway points: 1) get the sand/soil (or peat) combination right. Don't overdo the sand or they will dry out. 2) Put down a pre-emergent to prevent crabgrass and other weeds. 3) Keep them constantly moist throughout the summer....See MoreAny Mid-Atlantic experience growing Rhodo. ponticum?
Comments (2)I don't grow it here near Reading, PA (SE PA), Zone 6, but see it down near Philadelphia. It would be worth a try in Zone 7A. R. ponticum grows to 4' in 10 years. It is hardy to -5F. It is a tough and adaptable species that was formerly used as grafting rootstock. R. ponticum 'Variegatum' has variegated foliage with white streaks and purplish flowers. It is native from Spain & Portugal to SW Russia and Lebanon....See MoreSource for Lithocarpus Henryi tree
Comments (26)>why would so many people plant small trees like flowering cherries and japanese maples?They notice them and are attracted by what they see. And they look good or at least acceptable when they look for them at outlets later. And they are able to find them at outlets later - there is a snowball effect wherein people want what they see around already, growers produce what they know will sell and so on. When I helped a friend with a garden center he was trying to make a go of we ordered a Sorbus hupehensis cultivar and he later had them on display with (if I remember correctly) their pink fruits in view. They stiffed - it seemed everyone who responded by expressing an interest in mountain ashes at all wanted the orange fruited S. aucuparia they already saw around everywhere (it is actually weedy in this ecosystem) instead. I thought of Sweetbay also but it doesn't have the laurellike appearance of most of the other trees discussed previously, anyone wanting a more chunky, tropicalesque appearance (like that of a Bull Bay, for perhaps the most dramatic example) will not get it from this tree. This post was edited by bboy on Wed, Oct 1, 14 at 12:28...See MoreQuercus ilex -- has anyone tried it in Mid-Atlantic?
Comments (5)"The mother tree, from which the acorns came, has experienced temps around 0 degrees F in Denmark" Yeah but an average winter in most of Denmark is zn 8, so in theory it will be a little easier to establish there. I had one die in the winters of the 1990s, but not one of the colder winters like 1994. Maybe 1996? In any case it clearly wasn't particularly hardy...for example...a small Pinea pinea survived the same winter. I think it died at 0F. Quercus suber was hardier too. Heat & humidity is generally not nearly as much a problem for the large flora of the Mediterranean as it is for those of California. There is/was Quercus ilex, suber, and Pinea pinea at the NCSU arb...and at Williamsburg...and various other Med. species I could mention, while Californian trees other than S. semprevirens and a couple others are very rare there. Certainly no California BLEs come to mind as doing well in the SE but I could be forgetting a couple. Compare Arbutus x andrachnoides which is sold by Woodlanders in SC and has been an absolute trouper for me int he past 3 summers, with Arbutus menziesii which is utterly ungrowable anywhere on the east coast. So you could certainly try it but expect it to die in a cold winter, not a summer. BTW though it is interesting to grow as a novelty, if you actually are planning a landscape around it you should be aware they are one of the most sombre looking trees I know of, and they cast dense shade. Search this forum for the picture of the one I posted previously for poaky (sp?)....See Moreshane11
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
8 years agodavidrt28 (zone 7)
8 years agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
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Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7AOriginal Author