Entry door - amount of glass
In my last post about entry doors, I said it would be my last. I spoke too soon. :) I suppose I could tack this onto a previous one, but I like threads that are about one thing.
I'm going to get a new entry door and wooden screen door, no glass, just screen, in place year-round, i.e., always in front of the entry door.
My plan is to get a 2/3-3/4 lite door with clear glass. I want my door to also be a window. Until recently I planned on an undivided piece of glass. As I scour neighborhoods looking at doors, I'm drawn to divided lites.
Now I turn to you for opinions and insight. The following examples are an original and 2 hastily done photoshops. Although the door in the photos are green, both of my doors will start out white, the color of my house trim. In the future that could change, but I'm starting out simple.
1 - Full divided lite (represents what the screen door will look like)
2 - 3/4 divided lite
3 - 3/4 undivided lite
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoThe 3 examples I posted above are not my house. Here's my house with the three possibilities but not showing the screen door in front. Door and screen will both be white. Too much divided glass across the front of my small facade?
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8 years agoCyn, I agree with you. It's a bit difficult trying to figure this out without having either door. I really want to do this all at once, i.e., not get the main door and then shop around for a screen door. I've only found two places in my area that sell decent quality screen doors, neither one being HD or Lowe's. I've found some nice ones online, more costly, but also a bit of a crapshoot as to how they'd look on whatever door I choose.
I can't be without a screen door. Settling on the entry door itself is the more lasting proposition. I need to like it a lot. The screen door could change if it ends up not looking that good. Ones I've considered have more cross pieces in the lower region. It's one of the reasons that 3/4 lite appeals to me.
Right now I have a busy screen door. I was shocked when so many of my friends told me they love it, as it's gotten pretty ratty.
This is when too many options aren't a lot of fun.
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8 years agoFor Olychick. I have no problem with people seeing my feet. :p
You've actually hit on the main issue. Which door assumes visual interest? The screen door will always be in place, but the entry door will be open whenever the weather's mild enough.
jlc: I don't want a screen door without any divider at all, i.e., similar to a full-lite glass door. So, there will be a screen door that actually says, "Welcome, I'm the screen door!" I realize that not everyone is enamored with that look, but I love it. I'm also drawn to screen doors with fir trees and egrets at the bottom, but I'm not going there with this version.Bunny
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8 years agoThe doors 1-4b were created via the test drive app on the Simpson site, which is infinitely easier to use than the Therma-tru app. The photos I posted here are screen shots, so I didn't have the benefit of putting them on a separate layer in Photoshop and retaining the shadows or any realism. Also, they show as having opaque glass which kinda takes the life out of them. Also, the doors will all be white. I'll try the artwork tomorrow. I'll have to resize the actual screen door (below) so that I can get an idea of where the cross bar will be.
This is the screen door from the backside. I wanted to capture the detail of the removable screen. The other screen I was considering has a stapled in screen that doesn't even have a spline channel, so it's off the table too.
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoI figured out where the cross bar is vertically on the screen door and pretty much where to show it on the photos with the Simpson doors.
The door and the screen door will be painted the same color as my house trim (Swiss Coffee). That could change when the house gets repainted but it's not happening this year or for this phase of the project.
In these photos the door is still represented as a wood color, but it will be the same color as the cross piece. I spent waaaay too much time trying to get it all photo-realistic and failed, so you all will have to use your imaginations.
#4 - The screen door would basically overlay the entry door, plus the cross piece.
#3 - The brown part peeking through would be white. However the screen material will darken that square of door. In essence the only problem I see is the little gap between the screen's cross bar and the top of the bottom panel. I don't really consider that a deal-breaker.
Edited to add: I redid my calculations and I think the top of the 3/4 door panel will just about align with the bottom of the screen door's cross piece, give or take an inch.
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