double island, extra big island or smaller island + nook table
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Layout Help- Big Range+Island+Big Windows- Will this Work?
Comments (18)This is awesome feedback and so incredibly helpful! For a newbie like me, having your input really gives me confidence in our layout. So I've been contemplating the reco to switch the fridge and the range. I know having the fridge closer to the hall gives quick access to drinks, ensures the door opens properly and keeps the people from having to walk behind the cook to reach the fridge. But what are your thoughts about the impact of the fridge placement on the openness of the space? Do you think having the fridge on the right and the hutch on the left creates a more enclosed entrance into the kitchen? Right now we dont have any wall cabinets so we enjoy a fairly open and bright space with the large windows. I dont want to lose that so I'm interested in your thoughts. houseful: Your rendering is awesome. Its so cool to see my space in 3D! I surely dont want to lose inches in the planning (every inch counts, right) so Ill go back and recalculate the cabinet measurements. I love the curved island because it adds so much interest. My DH and I really want to maintain the seating for 4 on 2 sides of the island. This is the only way we could keep the ability to look at each other and our guests while eating. We played around with a "T" shaped island (the bottom of the T extending from the window), but thought the proposed island gave us more prep space. mom2lilenj: I fell in love with your idea of switching the DW and trash. It makes so much sense! If we lose that seat in the 33" space due to clearance issues, well definitely incorporate your suggestion. I also like your suggestion to expose the brick in the chimney. We had an architect friend over to take a look at the space and when I mentioned using the chimney as a decorative feature, she said because it was plastered over, the brick is probably not "pretty" brick. Id like to find out though, so maybe well expose a section in the mudroom to find out whats underneath the plaster. Even if its not pretty brick (which Im not exactly sure what that means), it would be awesome to expose another original element to the house. Ill keep you posted. Thanks again for your input and I welcome any other thoughts or ideas!...See MoreWhen is an island not an island.
Comments (25)Palimpset, Not sure if this will answer your question...I did read the entire thread & saw your sketches, but confess I'm not very good at reading & interpreting sketches. My pre-remodeled kitchen (built in 1978) measured 13x11 and was U-shaped. The long arm of the U, that one walked around to enter the kitchen, held the dishwasher and double sink. The center of the U held the range, and the other arm of the U held the refirgerator, plus standard cabinets. Although kitchen is small, with no room for expansion, when I remodeled, I really wanted an island to update the look. My kitchen designer was the woman who owned the custom cabinet company that built my cabinets, and I think she's a wizard -- in her 60s, and very creative. I used her concept and have been absolutely delighted with the results. I'm posting more photos here than I normally would, because I think the link to my photos I the Kitchen Blog has broken. The entire kitchen space is still 13 x 11. The island measures 74.5 inches x 44 inches. It holds the double sink & the dish drawers. What I love is the absolute functionality of this design...far more than any other, much larger, kitchen I've ever had. Everything is only 2-3 steps away. Unloading groceries from the island to the refrigerator behind is an absolute dream. Moving from fridge to range to sink is so easy...2-3 steps. There are 2 island stools for casual eating or guests to camp out while I'm cooking. After 5 years of living and doing a LOT of cooking in this kitchen, I'm still delighted with its functionality and its look. I hope this is info you will find helpful. OK -- for some stupid reason, I can't upload the photos. GW keeps sending me to LOGIN page, to re-enter my password, etc. I'm going to submit this now, so I don't lose the message. Sorry....See MoreU-shaped w/ small island or L w/ larger island? Help pls
Comments (26)OK - I may have gotten a little carried away...but here's a layout with what appear to be all your wants. I don't see a pantry, so I added cabinets behind the island as well as b/w the DR and TV room for extra storage. You actually have plenty of storage in this kitchen! The base cabinets on the top wall are 27"D (but could be as deep as 28.5"), the upper cabs on the top wall are 15"D. There are two excellent Prep Zones, although I would prefer to prep on the island facing everyone! (Prepping is 70% or more of the work/time in the kitchen; cleaning up is 20% or less.) The Cleanup Zone is out of the way of the Prep and Cooking Zones and there's no crossing through the Cleanup Zone to get to the Refrigerator or MW. With an undercounter MW like a MW drawer, you don't lose counterspace or have anything in the vertical space b/w the counters and cabinets. There's a nice stretch of counter to the left of the ovens,for a snack center or even a tea/coffee center (43" of counterspace). The ovens are in a 31.5" wide cabinet - the reasonable minimum needed for 30" wide ovens (which I assume the wall oven is at least - I don't know how wide your steam oven will be). There's a 42" wide counter-depth refrigerator - hopefully that will allay your DH's concern about a counter-depth model... In the DR, the table can be moved a bit to the left, especially if you don't put an outside door in the DR. Moving the table to the left will give you a few more inches b/w the shallow cabinets and the table. Note that the cabinets b/w the DR and TV Room are 6" taller than standard - that means the counter will be 42" high (bar-height). The cabinets + counters not only give you more storage space, but they also provide you with a separation b/w the DR and the TV Room as well as provide counter space in both places. The cabinets are 12" deep, but the counter is 15" deep. The TV Room has a sofa and chair - the chair can be moved to view the TV or stay where it is for conversation and visiting. (I even added end tables :-)) A note about the doors - I don't understand why you don't like the "line of sight" from the front door to the back door. The problem is, that middle section is the ideal spot for the back door - no obstructions, easy access to the kitchen, and out of the way of all work zones and seating areas. It keeps the traffic out of everyone's way - it's the perfect location! Put up some nice window/door dressings and you'll have a pleasant view for anyone entering your home from the front door. I wouldn't want the door to be in the kitchen (in the 8' span) b/c it would draw everyone through the kitchen to get to the backyard - the last thing you want in a kitchen! The island will help direct people around, but inevitably, some people will choose to go through the kitchen (b/w the island and perimeter) and get in your way - especially if someone is sitting at the island. If you absolutely must have the door there, then I suggest a sliding door with the opening as far away from the kitchen as possible - so that would mean the bottom of the 8' span. The rest can be windows. It's still going to be an issue, though... Here's the layout (select/click on a picture to see a bigger version): I labeled the cabinets and counters with suggestions for storage and usage - but you should tailor it to what would work for you... Here's a zone map:...See MoreIsland slightly too large for most countertops- should i make smaller?
Comments (23)bardzil, no they are not frameless. MaWizz, yes, we like to mix it up and we tend to be "rule breakers" when it comes to design. and the pull-out trash was a cabinetry option, not a revashelf. I will post photos below so you can see how we mixed up the hardware sizes and orientation. This is the 3rd home I have completely remodeled over my many years. Went from 8000 s.f. to 5000 s.f (both historical homes) to this 3000 s.f crazy, not my usual style home on an amazing waterfront lot. We call it "rustic contemporary". But oh, was it ugly. Many here will say, no,no on the busy rustic backsplash with the granite countertops that "should be the star". No subway for this place. Wouldn't change a thing for this particular spot, style and our now emerging empty nest status (3 boys out, one more with a big toe out). Bardzil, as Mom of 4 boys I get the dishwasher thing! Became a big fan of the double drawer dishwasher. Good luck with your remodel!...See Moremlogin
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