Two wild roses in Northern Calif.
Last month we made our first trip up to our cabin in the Trinity Alps in No Cal. Here are two pictures I took of wild roses which were blooming (they only bloom for about a week!). The first one has been there for years - I have seen it in full bloom, but when I took this there was only one bloom left, but cute. The color is pretty accurate.
The next day we went to Weaverville, about an hour away by car. As we drove along State Hwy 3, I saw something by the side of the road and yelled at my DH, "stop. stop!". Of course he kept going. When we were coming home from Weaverville, however, I kept my eyes looking for what I had seen - a HUGE wild rose bush in full bloom. Unfortunately, I did not have my camera with me, and had to take pics with my very cheap not smart phone. The blooms on the second picture were pale pink, unlike the first one which is dark pink. They are both about the size of a nickel.
So fun to happen to see these in the one week out of 52 when they were blooming! Wanted to share with you -
Jackie
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Tessiess, SoCal Inland, 9b, 1272' elev
8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoThe top one might be R. pinetorum. The flowers are teeny tiny. I grow R. pinetorum 'Beatrice Howitt'. Here is a photo. It likes cool, shady spots. Plant stays small--maybe 1 1/2 to 2 feet?
The other California native rose that I have seen with that color is R. nutkana muriculata which grows to moderate size. My botanic garden has it but I don't think I have any pics of it in bloom..... Here is R. gymnocarpa from Rancho Santa Ana Botanic Garden. Not as deep a pink in this example, but still a possibility. It does well in shade too and doesn't grow very tall. Flowers are small but not quite as teensy as Beatrice Howitt's. There are some other CA native roses that I'm not familiar with yet such as R. spithamea.
I didn't sniff the R. gymnocarpa because there was a snake among the plants. Snakes are not my favorite creatures even if they aren't poisonous!
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8 years agoThanks for the info! I believe there are several kinds of wild roses up there - one is the color of your second picture (which I call "Pepto Bismal pink". It also grows right along the roadside. It and the darker colored one only get 1-2 feet high.
The large rose thicket (and I have no idea how many plants may have been in there - the little wild roses sort of form colonies, so I am presuming this one did too) was almost 20 feet wide by 10 feet high.
Its blooms look white, but they were really a very light pink. It was down an embankment, so I could not get close enough to smell them. Here is another picture of part of the thicket - this is as close as I could get (with my DH waiting not quite happily in the car barely off the road).
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