Container English/ Antique Roses, can I do it?
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Comments (6)Now works for me, too. I've had most of mine out for about 3 weeks. Most of them started breaking dormancy in our unheated garage. We had ice on the ground Saturday morning and they seem completely unaffected. I'm not sure how cold it was but probably not much below freezing. I got a variety of different classes of roses, all of what I bought are advertised to be hardy in my zone....See MoreHelp! What Old English Rose should I place here?
Comments (20)I'm assuming that you might be totally new to roses and to landscaping with this new house. If not, please bear with me some here... I've written a good bit below for what I might do with your new yard, something suited to my own tastes and ideas as to what I like in roses. (Probably too much but I kind of got going in imagining your landscape design.) I'd also like to highly recommend a book that can help hugely in forming your own landscaping ideas with roses. You can buy it cheaply at Amazon.com. If I had to buy it used, I'd do that, even if it were in crummy condition. The book gives ideas, lots and lots of ideas: "Landscape with Roses" by Jeff Cox. And one more: "The House & Garden Book of Country Gardens" by Charles Quest-Ritson. Not so much for specific ideas as really good for helping you to define for yourself your general taste preferences. I got mine used at Amazon, and have enjoyed it hugely; it helped me to figure out what kinds of styles in landscaping I really like best, and which I really don't want to emulate. Regarding your new house, the northwest orientation on the back is something less than ideal for most roses, but the front of your house and yard would likely be easy for growing roses. SHADE TOLERANCE: In general, you can probably plant most roses that are reasonably hardy along the front, and probably many hybrid musks would work for the back just fine too, but some roses that are considered shade tolerant might be less shade tolerant than you might need, with that two-story house creating lots of shade around the back yard. ROSES SUGGESTIONS FOR THE BACK: I'd guess that Ghislaine de Feligonde might work out nicely, if you give her enough time to get where you want her to go. It's fragrant, low in thorns, disease resistant, shade tolerant, and those who have it tend to love it. It blooms a lot. Be sure to attach it to some kind of trellis or wiring to stand the rose out from the bricks a bit to allow for some air circulation behind it. Along the bottom, you could make a whole row of that same variety. Many different hybrid musk varieties ought to work for this job too, though they probably wouldn't reach as far as Ghislaine. Just to name a few: Cornelia, Buff Beauty, Lavender Lassie, Prosperity, Penelope, Will Scarlet. Possibly use a different variety with a contrasting color to accent each end (or possibly make this contrast with a different kind of shrubbery altogether: evergreen hiemalis camellia Kanjiro with thick waxy leaves). Then choose some lower growing shade tolerant polyantha roses to plant in front of those large bushes choosing the color according to what you think would look nice with the color of whatever you've planted against the wall. (Or try the very low growing *wonderful* hiemalis camellia 'Shishigashira' there in front of the large rose bushes.) MORE LANDSCAPING POSSIBILITIES ON THE BACK: Construct a huge heavy wooden wide arch to lead into the back entrance, and grow roses on it, with a beautiful little floor of something like bricks with brick steps going down into the lower area, with room in front with a bit more bricks as a little patio with enough room to sit a huge pot on each side of the arch entrance with some favorite roses growing in the pots. (Mortimer Sackler might have enough shade tolerance for the arch, though I wouldn't guarantee that at all.) Then add a couple of climbers on each side of the house wall too, in a contrasting color (both the same variety) to those on the arch, with some evergreen shrubs along the wall as well. If you don't opt for camellias, then there are a ton of azaleas that would also work quite well (one of the small-leaved Kurumes or Gables would especially look nice, I think). THE FRONT: Almost any rose you want to plant will grow. The problem is going to be in how you tie it in with what you have there already. What you have looks fairly good right now. I can't tell exactly what it is, but it looks good. So I'd assume that you probably would like to keep it? The best I can come up with quickly would be to take a nice short low-thorns rambler like Climbing Pinkie, Annie Laurie McDowell or Renae, and pot her up in a huge pot on each side of your doorway. Then let her send a single cane (or two) up between the door and the window, and pull her other canes over and outward via pegs toward the ground away from the door, just to let her other canes ramble along the underside of the windows. Then at the two far corners on the outside of that line of shubbery, plant another rambler (possibly the same variety) and let it flop over, building up on itself in a huge bushy display. (Gorgeous picture of Rhonda in zone 7 doing that with climbing pinkie: www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.88187). Then in front of the existing shrubbery, plant a short row of low-growing polyantha roses, something that would look nice with the rest (Marie Daley for a similar color, or Marie Pavie to contrast, perhaps.) These varieties will all tolerate some partial shade too, as might be the case to the far left on the front. Another variety that you might like to do something along these lines with would be the David Austin rose Mortimer Sackler. It's nicely fragrant, beautiful, and easy to grow, though it tends to want more to be more upright like a shrub than to flop over like the above three ramblers. You might want to do these rose additions in stages, and just start with a row of low polyanthas in front of the existing shrubbery. ALTERNATIVE FOR THE FRONT: If you're really ambitious, take two garden hoses and lay out a slightly winding path to the front door. Pave that path with something you like, perhaps something to match or complement the paving in front of the front door. If there's a large enough area in the front, make this walk split around a central focal point with a fountain, birdbath, or some striking shrubbery that you particularly like (Camellia Japonica Nuccio's Jewel or Nuccio's Pearl would do that!), perhaps surrounded by small roses. It would likely be a round focal point, but doesn't necessarily have to be round, especially if you decide to make a part of the walkway veer off to one side to, say, another planting area, another parking area, or a side yard's garden. Then figure on your front landscaping as a whole, taking that walkway into account, and trying for an informal balance. To give you some online inspiration for figuring out what kind of looks you might like, I've attached a link to Philip Oliver's website. It takes a good while to look at all his pictures, but you can see how he started with an open non-landscaped yard and has ended up a mere ten years later with something gorgeous. You have a zillion different good options! These are just my own leanings showing up now in this response. I hope you enjoy your new house and working on your new yard. :) Best wishes, Mary Here is a link that might be useful: Phillip Oliver's pictures offer lots of landscaping ideas...See MoreWanted: English rose and/or Antique rose cuttings
Comments (4)Brian, Its true that some Austins are still protected by patents and are illegal to trade cuttings of. Your list includes several of these: 'Queen of Sweden', 'Spirit of Freedom', Evelyn', and 'The Prince'. All others are no longer protected by a patent and can be traded....See MoreWho am I? Looks like a David Austin or another English rose!
Comments (29)I have 5 abe Darby's & 3 tamoras they both have great scent - your rose looks like Darby to me !! The colors can vary depending on weather when it comes to Darby. In winter my blooms have strong apricot, peachy yellow & pink but in summer it's very pink. Tamora can also vary in color due to weather. When I saw your pics- Darby was first rose that came to mind. I'm a David Austin rose freak - I have around 20 different austins, plus a few extras of my favorite Austin bushes but I'm not counting those. Tamora is a great rose also, the scent reminds me of starburst :) yum but here in class the bush isn't the most vigorous grower- Both are susceptible to black spot in my garden. Darby however is extremely vigorous. I've noticed on my Darby, the blooms can vary greatly, some are so packed with petals & others not so much ( prob Bc of the heat!) i just dead headed all of mine otherwise I would post pics :( sorry but Good luck!! :)...See Morerusticrhythm
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