Thanks Nippsress. I do find that mine grows wide rather than tall and if thats the case I may just keep it where it is. I'll have to prune it maybe 2x a year to keep it in check, but as long as it stays low it can stay at the front of the border. Width is not that much of a concern with me. I don't know why anyone would describe its blooms as coral because they are definitely deep pink/magenta. Mine too has no hint of coral. It is by far the most disease resistant rose that I grow. I just wish it bloomed more for me. But then again its not quite 3 years old. How large would you say the blooms get? Mine are usually small but Im hoping they get bigger once the rose gets more established.

I saw Ivor's Rose at Ashdown in the ground and it was about 3 or 4 tall and about the same width. (I live only 20 minutes from there so was there sort of often). BUT it was red. I purchased it from Ashdown the same day. Help Me Find describes it as Red with a deep pink reverse so I don't think there should be any coral....

Glad this is helpful - I'm not sure where my association with coral came from, but it is indeed the gardener's red (i.e. hot pink) for me year round. As for size, I'd say the blooms vary from the size of a large plum to maybe a small orange. Not as big as Rosarium Uetersen that is nearby, which are nearly the size of my hand when happy. The bush has notably gotten more floriforous with larger blooms over the years, and I want to say that it was about the 4 year mark that I started to notice this bush. It seemed to take a while to really get established, more so than some roses. Sounds like you have a place that'll work for this rose after all! I hope yours is doing well for you as well, countrygirl.

Cynthia

It turned out that the one I got was accidentally mislabeled and they gave me another one. One died over the years and I am waiting for the last one to bloom so I will know which I have.

My poor little Ivor's Rose has four blooms and it is the correct one! Yippee! they are small since the plant is small and I am looking forward to seeing it grow!

Out of all the roses I received this year Ivors's Rose is growing like crazy. Got 2 of them for two separate spots both are growing the same.

Mine is very vigorous, but so far not a big bloomer. Although I think its because I keep hacking her down to try and keep her tame in the spot I put her in. I may have to move her.

Mine is own root, 3 seasons, chest high. Constant bloom and NEVER a spot of BS. And it is in a dry spot. New growth is pushing before I can get it deadheaded. Roots like a dream. After the first year I had it I posted that if it had been named "beautiful dreamer" or such it would be a best selling rose.

My healthiest rose along with Bayse's Blueberry, Basye's Purple and Vineyard Song. I bow down to these beauties!!!

Susan

Susan- I'm so glad to hear such encouraging news on Ivor's rose. I bought tow last year own root. One had a lot of cane loss through winter the second one did much better. Both came absolutely covered in black spot. I unpotted them, removed all of their soil, cut back all of the canes to no leaves and soaked them in a mild bleach solution hoping I wouldn't kill them. Yikes!! Some very drastic measures. They grew back extremely healthy with nice shiny green leaves. This year both are 99% BS free and have been putting out some nice growth, the larger of the two is on its second flush. Not super prolific yet but I'm hoping I'll have your success once she's older and settled in.

Does yours have any scent? Mine has none so far but the blooms are lovely and the color is perfect next to Kordes 'Sisters Fairytale' Rose. It's the perfect contrast. I plan on planting 'Dark Desire' with these two so I'll have soft pink, deeper pink and burgundy as contrasts.

Cynthia- I'm glad to read that this stays relatively small in our zone. HMF listed it as 6feet spread which would definitely be too large for the space she's in. I read your earlier posts and am happy to hear that you grow more pleased every year. It sounds like she's worth the wait :-)

Sharon

I ended up moving mine in order to give it more room to grow. It dropped a few leaves after the initial move, but quickly recovered. It is now completely disease free and growing happily. It has not bloomed but I bet it will get going soon after establishing itself a bit more.

Sharon - the 6 feet HMF lists is entirely plausible if the rose grew straight up. Most of my canes are a good 5' long, it's just that they grow sideways. As long as that works for your space, that's good. To both you and SoFL, the bloom cycle gets better with age, but I'm finding that it doesn't rebound as quickly as some roses from being cut to the ground after winter. I just got my first bloom on Ivor's Rose a week or two ago, and while it has substantial cane regrowth back onto its floppy fence, that hasn't started blooming yet. I expect the fall flush will be nice, though. For SoFl, that shouldn't be a problem, but you might get winter dieback, Sharon. Regardless, I like this one.

Cynthia

Thanks Cynthia- mine did have dieback and bloomed in June with probably about 8 flowers. It now has 3 more buds. This overwintered in a pot and is STILL in a pot. I really need to find its permanent home soon. I'll have to find a place where it can sprawl to its heart content.

Sharon

Sharon mine has detectable scent rarely. Although some visitors seem to think its really fragrant.

I will have to check out Sister's Fairytale. Those Fairytale roses are super healthy here--but usually lack fragrance. I love Caramella and Golden Fairytale

FWIW--my Ivor's grows sideways too. It's a great rose here. Unstoppable.

Susan

Thanks Susan for the info. 'Sisters Fairytale' stays short in my garden about 3 feet. I have not been able to find a source for this one lately. I bought her about 5 years ago and managed to keep her alive in spite of my lack of rose gardening expertise, so yes she IS one rugged little rose. Not a super prolific bloomer but she puts out a nice display and has a very mild scent. Cinderella grows tall and has no scent. 'Caramella Fairytale' is the least hardy of the three but has such gorgeous blooms so the winter damage is worth it. I just bought 'Golden Fairytale' this year so she is still really tiny but I've read great things about her.

Peter Kukeilski is a huge fan of both Kordes and Easy Elegance roses. I used his book 'Roses without Chemicals' as a reference when choosing my later rose purchases. I wish I had had this info before I bought all of my roses since he is very strict and honest in his rose ratings. He gardens in Maine on the coast so a similar environment to mine except he's farther north and we're more inland (about 35 miles from the RI coast) but he has BS pressure and winter issues similar to ours.

My David Austins are not as disease free as I would like but his flowers are so "to die for" that I'm reluctant to part with them. Some that have been healthy though are 'Lady of Chalotte' 'Darcy Bussell' and 'Windermere' which is the most prolific of the 3. Sadly my favorite for scent, flower form and consistent bloom 'St. Cecelia' is a total mess this year. I just cut her almost to the ground to get rid of the BS. I love her scent so I might just have to coddle her some and try some organic preventatives. 'Heritage' thrives on no care and is still growing well in her overrun garden spot putting out 2-3 flushes a season. Our growing season is very erratic here. Some years spring comes in February others in May. This year I had 3 feet of snow in my garden till the 3rd week of April and had about 50 roses due to arrive the last week of April. It has been very cool this summer with temps hardly ever reaching 90 so I don't think I'll see 3 flushes this year unless we have a nice long fall.

Sharon

In Dallas, TX, it is getting quite large, also sideways >6 feet, blooms regularly and has fragrance. Very healthy with no spray, not much dieback with our relatively mild last winter/ice storms (its first). I'm hoping for a good fall bloom, once I actually get around to feeding it.

I know this is an old post, but anyone know if Ivor is shade tolerant?

Mine is partly shaded a bit by some blueberry bushes behind it and it does OK. Any rose in full sun will bloom more often and more robustly, at least in our northern climates. Ivor isn't a rose that thrives in shade like the hybrid musks or Darlow's Enigma, but mine at least survives. Sometimes when you have part shade you make compromises and length of bloom might be one of them. I expect it would survive in part shade but be less vigorous overall. I wouldn't put it in hosta-happy shade though.

Cynthia

Mine gets dappled shade after 3. I consider this still full sun but just in case that helps you. Mine is fantastic. How much shade are you talking about?

Lily, Because it’s a pretty big bush, I was thinking of putting it in the back of my bed which would get only morning sun till about 11, which is probably not enough. Also, does yours grow up or just wide?

Mine is at least 5.5 ft tall and definitely close to 9-10 ft wide. I have to be honest.. that dosnt sound like a lot of sun for a rose... is there something else you can grow there ?

I was waiting for you to comment. :) I love the pictures of your FR! It has sold me on her and now she is on my must have list.

I had transplanted some hydrangea there and I’m not sure all survived so I was thinking of replacing with roses but I guess I’ll stick with hydrangea

I’ll start a new thread to see if there are any roses that do well in heavy shade