Sorry I misquoted it wasn't a *wide margin* it was a decent margin.

(Is this the liquid or pearls? I don't have the online subscription, just the paper one.)

Ah sorry - just read that it's the 2in1 which is liquid!

I read a lot of comments here and on another forum. Many, many people don't like liquids and will sometimes slam people who use them. It makes me wonder now if they believe anything CR prints, will they change their minds about liquids?

Here is what Consumer's Report had to say:

"Persil ProClean Power Liquid 2-in-1 is our new top-rated detergent, beating out the previously number one Tide Plus Ultra Stain Release by a decent margin, though both products are excellent overall."

"The Persil and Tide detergents were equally effective at tackling grass, ring-around-the-collar, chocolate, and tea stains. Where Persil separated itself was on blood stains, where it scored an excellent compared to Tide’s very good. We also tested a pair of other Persil products: Persil ProClean Power Liquid and Persil ProClean Power Pearls and they performed very well overall, besting another newcomer to the detergent aisle, Tide’s HE Turbo Clean."

The ratings are as follows:

Persil ProClean Power-Liquid 2n1 - Score 85
Tide Plus Ultra Stain Release - Score 81
Tide HE Plus Bleach Alternative - Score 81
Persil ProClean Power-Liquid - Score 74
Member's Mark Ultimate Clean - Score 73
Wisk Deep Clean - Score 71
Tide Plus Coldwater Clean HE - Score 71
Persil ProClean Power-Pearls - Score 71
Kirkland Signature Free & Clear - Score 70

Maylingsmom, I typically don't like liquids although I have some, I'm not sure why, I have just always been a powder person, and powders clean better for me unless its an oily stain. My son bought me a ton load of the persil pro clean 2 in 1, the scent is too much for me, and I like some scent, but since its rated #1 detergent I'm giving it a try.lol.

Now we should all grab the popcorn, grab a seat and wait and watch what P&G does about losing out to PERSIL, we all know their working on something, another BETTER, NEW AND IMPROVED TIDE, and it will probably reek of scent. In the mean time P&G will probably throw more coupons at us. Its a win-win lol

Thank you Steve for posting the ratings.

Persil proclean Pearls rated a 71 that doesn't surprise me, CR conducts their tests with cold water, the persil pearls need at least warm to activate its bleaching system. I bet the score on the pearls would have been higher had CR used warm and better yet hot water.

Tide could win a lot of people back if they brought back their original scent. Tons of people complained to P & G about that.

Who can remember or find what Wisk rated at last year (or was it 2013)?

I know I am a broken record, but the original P&G Downy April Fresh Scent was created by a famed French perfume house like 40 years ago. Abruptly P&G dropped the classic April Fresh scent in their liquid softener, then the Tide w/Downy, then the Gain Sweet Sizzle and just recently the last remaining product was changed....Downy April Fresh dryer sheets!! I have written to P&G, emailed and called.....They will not discuss rights of the classic April Fresh scent, even when stating that there are 1000's of complaints on the Downy Website, and 1000's of people wanting it back (there is even a Facbook page created to bring back the classic and original April Fresh Downy).

Back to Tide....I cannot understand why Tide powder Original scent was ruined recently. It always left my sheets and towels smelling so clean. Soft and fresh. The new scent is AWFUL, as is most of P&G scents!!

Not surprising results to those of us who have used Persil for a long time and where it's compatible with the water.

Larsi, I thought tides classic scent was gone years ago. I agree that P&G scents are awful, h3wl sun brand detergent smells better than any of P&G'S offerings IMHO. I wish tide would smell like tide, and I wish one could have that fresh lemon scent. Look at the scents we have to choose from on the shelves, flowers galore, and fruit by the basketfull, but not a single lemon the one scent for laundry that actually smells fresh and clean. Remember FAB with lemon fresh borax?

Loved Fab when it was lemon...miss it a lot.

Was it not in 2013 that Wisk Free was #1 in CR? I know for sure it was the Free version.

I don't really know sparky823. If it was 2013, then what was #1 in 2014?

I don't recall wisk comming in #1 I thought it came in #2 a close 2nd to tide, but I could be wrong.

Did they test all, cheer, vask,mas? It seems to be quite a select group.....

Closest I can find for Consumer Reports 2013 Top conventional brands for standard top loaders #1 WISK deep clean, liquid..#2 TIDE plus bleach vivid white+bright lliquid.

Top HE brands: #1 TIDE ultra plus bleach vivid white+bright, powder #2 WISK deep clean free and pure, liquid.

Well not sure what year now, but one year the Wisk Free was #1 because a lot of folks were complaining because Wal Mart didn't have it for some reason, but later stocked it. Before then, they had to order online.

This was very interesting that no detergent had a score above 85.

What about using a tiny bit of fabric softener to see if it would cut the suds? I don't normally use FS myself but am thinking I need to get the smallest bottle and keep on hand in case I have tons of suds.

I have learned to take CR with a grain of salt. I have tried some of their top rated items and found they didn't work at all well for me. Having said that, it is good to see something besides Tide as the front runner.

Sorry Wisk deep clean free and pure was #1 in 2013 under th HE catagory. And you know what...I still can't find it..lol

We went shopping in the town over from us and still no wisk he. I just refuse to order and pay shipping for detergent.

I've never even heard of Persil. Is it at the supermarket?

Socks its only sold at walmart.

Did CR look at fading of bright colors? (I'm not a member so can't look this up myself...)

philosophermom - I don't think they look at the types of things you and I would think about. They tested the detergents in cold water.

But the thing is, what you say is Cold is actually labeled as Warm now by most washer makers. Saw one the other day (Kenmore) and it had Warm (75) where a few years ago Warm was 100. Have you ever tried the Tide Coldwater?

sparky823 - if you are talking to me, I don't like the smell of Tide and tried it years ago and got a terrible rash. I might be willing to try the turbo if I could get a coupon that would make me only have to pay a very few dollars. I could try it out on my husband's laundry ;)

And we know there's no way 75 degrees will get rid of body oils, h3!!!! I doubt 100 degrees will. Sparky, I have tide coldwater liquid that I bought for black dress clothes, it worked ok, but the dress clothes were lightly soiled, and the scent is like cheap perfume from the dollar tree..lol. I like som scent, its just the heavy cloying perfume ones I don't like.

I have used it before and it is one of the best I have ever used besides Tide with Bleach powder. It used to come in an unscented formula but they stopped making it. They rather have something that smells really strong I guess?! They ruined Tide Original Powder--and say that it (new scent) was preferred over the old. I find that hard to believe myself. Just like the old smell of Downy. After thousands of complaints they are still making that sweet-tart version. Oh well, I use the unscented now.

I love tide with bleach powder, matter of fact unless I'm in the mood to pull something out of my stash I mix tide with bleach powder and persil pro pearls half and half for whites. I doubt I could get whiter whites.

Dare I ask.. in the CR chart, what *is* Dust Sebum?

Dust Sebum.....Sebum is oils on the skin and dust is dirt..lol so when dust gets on your oily skin you have dust sebum. Its what causes ring around the collar

The only reason I knew that was I worked in the medical community.

Now you know why ring around the collar can be a pain to remove at times, oily dirt needs special treatment and I've found the best treatment is to rub fels naptha laundry bars on the collar or liquid detergent. ...lol

Thanks for explaining, Mamapinky - I would have never guessed! I have to concur with CR about Persil 2-in-1 and the dreaded Dust Sebum. It's worked surprisngly well applied directly to some pretty disgusting cuffs and collars. I don't use 2-in-1 as a general detergent, but I count the detergent used for treating stained areas toward the total amount of detergent (combined with the ProClean Powder) for the load. Dust sebum indeed... :-)