Shocking experience at the veterinarian
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8 years ago
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Comments (17)It's not looking good. I had watered a few weeks ago when I first took it out and now the soil was dry so I watered it a bit more. Each morning I look at it and it looks like it has spider web threads. It's not a web but it has very light strands on it and I take them off but the next day new ones are back. I don't know what that means. I had been told by a local nursery not to feed because it would stress it.....See Morecorrection/shock collar
Comments (32)A remote collar wouldn't work unless you intend to always be watching her when she is out running. The point of the Invisible Fence is your dog is ALWAYS corrected when going out of bounds, not sometimes when you happen to watch her, but ALWAYS. Dogs learn by consistent training. If she crosses the boundary and you are not watching, therefore she gets no correction, she will not learn to not cross the boundary, just not to cross the boundary when you are watching her. In other words, she will learn to sneak out of bounds. With the Invisible Fence, she will always get corrected when she approaches the boundary, reinforcing what she is supposed to do- stay within the boundary. My Invisible Fence system has an automatic 12 hour battery backup, so if the power is off, the system is still up and running for 12 hours. The mistake most people make is putting the Invisible Fence collar on the dog and expecting it to know what to do (and what it is doing wrong) when it gets shocked. That is NOT the case- you have to train the dog to the boundary. This means working with the dog, showing it the boundary, giving it a command about what to do when the boundary is approached, and rewarding it for following directions. I imagine that training a dog to learn the boundary of a 60 acre lot takes a lot more time than my small city lot. The dog has to learn where the boundaries are before you can expect it to stay within them. I know many dogs who are simply extremely well boundary-trained and never stray off property even without Invisible Fence systems etc. The Invisible Fence is just for training reinforcement, not as a substitute for training. Putting an Invisible Fence around a 60 acre lot will be quite expensive too. I have Huskies, who are prone to running away and to chasing critters, and they are very well trained on the Invisible Fence. Honestly, I think Tatyana and Anastasia got shocked twice each, EVER, even though we moved. There is no fear involved in Invisible Fence training- they approach the boundary and get rewarded for staying within it. If the collar beeps at them, they immediately go to their safe area (the porch). All I had to do was put the flags back up in our new house, and the Huskies knew where the boundaries were and what to do. Since I have both an Invisible Fence and a remote shock collar, I can probably be of great assistance if you have any specific questions about either system. Both systems have their place, but you have to use them correctly. Neither is a substitute for training, which takes time and effort, despite how easy the respective companies will make it seem with their products. I wish my dogs had 60 acres to run around on. The girls would love it....See MoreShocking experience at the veterinarian
Comments (47)frogged, you could replace the word "Vet" with any one of a number of professional job names, change other words to correspond, and be able to tell the same story many times over. Yes, customers (or clients or patients) can be demanding and unreasonable. Yes, the reality of a job once you get into it can be very different from what was expected. Yes, jobs that are demanding and competitive can be stressful. I'm not a vet, but I saw that in my professional career and more and more. So what? There's no excuse for a callous attitude, for a lack of compassion, for incompetence. People who don't like what they do and who can't meet job and client expectations need to find other work to do. Through the actual experiences of a family member, my window into the world of veterinary practice paints a very difficult picture. I hear of satisfaction and rewards beyond what was ever expected. I hear of dedicated and compassionate practitioners who do whatever is necessary to fulfill the trust placed in them to do what they spent years to learn. I hear of people who are very happy about what they do. Is that all? No, some struggle to be competent, to know how to deal with different client and patient situations and for them, being a vet is miserable. Their employers know it and try to move them along when mentoring doesn't work....See MoreCase for Veterinarian Malpractice?
Comments (12)I have many comments and questions, though pretty sure I will not have enough room to list them all. Sure sounds like things did not go well for your kitty the first time around, though there are many parts of your story that are missing. First is why you took him to the vet in the first place. You said something was wrong, but you didn't say what. First question we always ask our clients is 'why did you bring kitty in?'. That helps to get some history and also find out what symptoms the client is most concerned about. Did you cat stop eating? Vomiting? Lethargic? Or was constipation the primary concern? If so, was that what made your bring him in? If so, the veterinarian certainly did not seem to either hear you or pay attention to your primary concerns.. .or was there another primary concern? Either way, an infected tooth is a real concern, but rarely is it the reason a cat is brought in to the vets as most people don't look in their pet's mouths. A tooth has to be pretty badly infected if it is causing symptoms that prompt an owner to bring in a pet (which can happen, but it's not common). And not doing a thorough exam is not a forgivable offense unless he has seen your cat regularly and the concern was minor. But your concerns about constipation should not be ignored… by either your vet or you. Was your cat able to defecate after you went home with the antibiotics for the tooth? If not, it makes sense to either call your vet immediately, complain if needed, or take him somewhere else. If your cat was eating during that time, and defecating, then perhaps he wasn't that constipated. But you said your cat was painful and that should be a concern for both of you that is rather immediate. As someone said above, you need to be your pet's advocate. If something doesn't seem right, you always have the right to ask, complain or see someone else (unless no one else is available). The comment about age is not incorrect, though. A 10 year old cat is an aged cat. In fact, any cat over 8 years old is considered an old cat. You said you knew cats who lived to 19 or longer… those are extreme exceptions. The average life span for a pet cat indoors is about 14.. outdoors is just under 13. That's average… so some cats have to be below that if others live longer than that. We see cats under 10 all the time with age related kidney diseases, cancers, liver failure etc… I can count on 2 hands all the cats I have seen 19 or older and I have seen tens of thousands of cats in my life. Just because one cat makes it that long certainly does not mean other cats should be able to, too. You have to have the right genetics, health, care and luck to live that long as a cat. So a 10 year old cat is an aged cat… though it also does not mean your cat will not be one of those amazing cats that lives to 19. My old roommate's cat lived to 25… oldest cat I have ever seen… yet it was very decrepit and miserable for several of those years and probably should have been let go earlier. Your cat was diagnosed with hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver disease)… a common disease in overweight cats that have been starved, stressed or ill for some time. It does not say why your cat developed hepatic lipidosis… COULD be the constipation, but could be the infected tooth, too. And does usually indicate the patient was not in perfect health to begin with (i.e.. usually overweight, one of the most common illnesses we see in cats). Hepatic lipidosis is much more rare in cats with good weight and/or good health prior to whatever illness/stress lead them to that situation. Though it took you much longer than it should have, you did the right thing by getting a second opinion and, I hope, your kitty ends up recovering and get back to normal. So what should you do about the other vet? Several things come to mind. First is you really need to talk to him or his office and let him/them know what is going on. No way for them to learn what they did is unacceptable unless you do something like that. Secondly you should have the records from your old vet sent to your new vet so the new vet can see what has been done already for your pet's illness and better be able to treat him. And soon after, have your new vet send a 'referral' letter to the old vet with an update on the case. This is a very common situation and promotes healthy communication between professionals, but mostly it allows the 'referring' vet (the original one) to not only see that they screwed up and this ended up being far more serious than they figured, but also the details of just how sick this kitty was and what needed to be done to save him… if nothing else you give him the opportunity to learn from his mistakes and, hopefully, not make them again and end up causing another pet to go through the same sort of disaster. ANd if you still feel the need, you can notify the state board, but there needs to be a lot more information that you have not given here before you will have much of a case that they will care about....See MoreUser
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