Floor plan review - modern farmhouse 4 BR, 3.5 bath
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Need help with my first floor plan- please review!
Comments (12)Thanks for the responses everyone! Let's see if I can address them all: There's a lot of focus on my guest bedroom area. My intent for that space is really to "flex" with us as our family ages, like you said, @lavender_lass. For now, I see it being used as an extra room- play room, or whatever with a bed or pull out couch for the infrequent times we do have adult over night guests. It can also be used as a BR if someone breaks their leg or has surgery or something. Then, as we age, it will become our Master bedroom. The Guest bath is large because we needed one that is wheelchair accessible. We have 3 friends and family members in w/c now, so it was drawn with them in mind. (And any future handicaps in ourselves.) So currently, it will be used as the bathroom that every guest uses when they visit. I didn't want it to open right on to the family room, cuz I think that's a little tacky! :) I don't like the door being where it is to the "guest suite" or flex space or whatever you want to call it. I was thinking about moving the door down, like you suggested, @kirkhall. Since you mentioned it, I'm thinking that's probably a really good idea! @fotomatt- just curious what you meant about the small look/sq footage? Didn't know if you meant that I haven't used the space well, or if I did use it well! Does the exterior elevation look wrong? I was actually worried that I have too much sqft. Just wondering- I won't bite, I promise! :) @andi_k- good point! And actually, after looking at those pics again, they don't seem to have alot of usable counter space, either. I might have to rethink my vision for that room. Adding a little footage to the mudroom might be on the agenda. I need to check and see if it will jive with the upstairs. So....what do you think about my front windows, then? Should I cut them down to 2 casements w/ transoms? That would give me a little more room to play with in the mudroom, but would that ruin my exterior look? So many good things to think about! I appreciate them all!...See MoreGables, soffits and a floor plan review?
Comments (33)Dadereni wrote, "... Back in architecture school I had a classmate who would always have a lot of ideas--many of them good--but due to lack of editing these would all be forced into one project...when some of them should have ended up on the floor or saved for the next project..." Excellent point! This is a major difference between good design and builder's "plop". If one scans through all of the illustrations on this thread one will immediately see that the stock plans and builder's houses have a wild mish-mash of forms, shapes, proportions, materials and details--all forced onto a single house! For example, there are multiple roof shapes and materials, multiple window shapes, sizes and types, and siding materials often look like a demonstration project for a half-dozen different manufacturers! One of my favorite examples of builder's frou-frou are the second floor window planter boxes shown on the house drawings. I wonder how many folks with have their potting soil, watering can, hand spades and cultivators in the bedrooms on the second floor to properly tend to those flowers! Don't forget that most annuals need to be changed out every 3-4 months or more often. Sure look good in the drawings, though! The well designed examples, however, can be quickly seen to have relatively few and well-integrated shapes, proportions, materials and details. The result is an authenticity lacking in the builder's designs--an overall harmonious unity of shape, proportion, materials and detailing. Roofs are simple and unified because the plans are simple; the proportions are pleasing and human scaled; the choice of materials and detailing is elegantly simple, but never plain! Good design does not need excess! Or mish-mash! Someone, earlier in the thread, said, "...well, we could just change the curved roof shapes (there are two "lonely" curved roof shapes in the referenced example), make some changes here and there and the design might be fine for us..." And it's true--one could make changes here and there, with a result that might be "fine" for them and their tastes. The point, however, is that one is starting with something that is poorly designed at the outset and trying to change some of the exterior decoration and, perhaps, move a few partitions around on the inside in order to make it "fine" and "acceptable". A sow's ear is a sow's ear, no matter how much one decorates or undecorates it! It's very difficult, time-consuming and questionable expense to start with a poor design and try to improve it. This is, of course, the challenge of starting with stock plans and builder's models. Many are simply mish-mash plop. Almost none of these plans are really designed for anyone's life style, family size, property conditions, local climate, local regulatory requirements, etc. These designs are generic and generalized--they attempt to include every feature and desirable material in their plan configurations, that is brought up in discussions such as this. The designs are a "library" of all of the currently trendy features from the builder's shows. They tend to be demonstration houses for materials manufacturers. By trying to design something for anyone and everyone, the result is that they really relate to no one! The result is that virtually everyone has to attempt to modify them and personalize them by starting from a poor and ill-fitting initial example. It's usually much better to start with and develop a "good" result, based on one's personalized needs and wants, whether we are talking about house design or anything else. Of course, everyone is different and good design may not be all that important, or, alternatively, one may think a lot of the mish-mash is good design. Everyone's mileage will vary and that's OK!...See MoreNew poster..Floor plan review. Thanks in Adavance!
Comments (12)A hodge-podge of thoughts... I'm pretty sure we looked at this plan when we were trying to decide! The porches on the back seem closed off from each other. I would prefer to have the square footage open for entertaining. The front porches seem far from the kitchen and possibly not used nearly as much? Depending on the direction the house faces the Living area could possibly be very dark. I do love the optional gameroom. Bedrooms upstairs seem small. Our two bunk together and that area would work for them but would be tight. (We plan to keep them together for the time being, allowing the other two rooms to be play room and guest rooms). Our upstairs bath is small like the one upstairs in your plan. However we planned larger closets to allow for desk area in them for primping/storage - to keep it out of the bathroom. I grew up with that and loved it. The additional corners/bumpouts on the foundation will make it more expensive. Having the plumbing all over the house will be more expensive than having it generally in the same area. 12'x12'8" dining room... Our table is 4'x8' seating 6 without the extra leaves. Can be 4'x10'. Our table would not fit lengthwise in your dining room. We entertain a lot and need the additional seating. We wanted: 4 bedrooms, laundry in an accessable area, large kitchen and living room area with an open concept. Vaulted section (husbands elk mount - silly but what we wanted). Plumbing generally in one area. Large closets. Must have large pantry. Wrap around porch, Country living. We are outdoors most of the time. Function was extreemly important for us. Being on a farm and using the laundry to drop clothes and be near a shower was a necessity. Wanted tall ceilings (for the feel and to help with the wrap around porches and letting light deep into the house). Could NOT (!!!!!) find everything we wanted in the layout that worked with our views and driveway access. So we started drawing. We were aiming for about 2400-2500sq ft. We saved on keeping the foundation square, rooflines simple, and sub contracting out ourselves. We are dried in now and working on electrical and plumbing. :) Example of what we did. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=jennybc%20gardenweb%20&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CD4QrAIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fths.gardenweb.com%2Fforums%2Fload%2Fbuild%2Fmsg0309084529850.html&ei=h0-fUcr7NYTc9QSFr4GwDQ&usg=AFQjCNFF3KXs5DfVIteq3OJlLSfsm5bNcw Didn't purchase plans. Bonus! Did have someone review the specs for beams and lengths for vaulted area, and roof support. I have to disagree with rosies: "And above all, wrap-around porches make the interior rooms gloomy all year, not just shadowy in summer, requiring artificial lighting all day long/all year long." No offense. There are so many reasons I think the statement is wrong I don't know where to begin. A house in the woods can be gloomy with no porches. A house with few windows is gloomy. I would say how the land lays in relationship to how sun rises and sets through the seasons AND the layout of the house in is much more improtant in determining the gloom factor. IMO I knew I wanted bright light in my kitchen in the morning. So I made sure the kitchen was on the back... etc. Keep these things in mind....See MoreFeedback on Modern Farmhouse 51754HZ
Comments (42)Consider putting an exterior door across from the laundry room to open to a patio outside the breakfast room. Consider putting a door at the bottom of the steps to the bonus room. Heat rises, and heated automobile exhaust smells with it. Whether summer or winter, you'll want the better control over your heat exchange and any heat/ac bills. You could put a door (perhaps a frosted glass French door or pocket door) on each/both side of the fireplace to access that hallway behind the chimney. This addresses not only visual symmetry but adds an extra door for sound privacy and potential fire escape access. Rather than make your pantry separate and walled off from your kitchen, you should make your "pantry" a walk thru butler's pantry by increasing the space for the pantry by having less of an indent between front porch and garage. The butler's pantry is a short hallway with floor to ceiling cabinets on both sides through which you may access the dining room directly from the kitchen without going through the living room. You could have an 18" countertop beneath the butler's pantry window and floor to ceiling 18" deep cabinets on the rest of the walls. You could make the built ins on each side of the fireplace be more shallow so they could serve as bookshelves for the living room side and linen and/or shared game/toy storage closets for the children's hall side of the wall. You could save some cost by straightening the exterior walls of the home. If you straighten the back wall of the house, you could add a roofed indoor/outdoor living area -- any combination of pergola w/semi-clear roof and/or sun room and/or open porch and/or screened porch the full back width of the house from the master bedroom wing all the way to the left back corner of the home. You might want to swap the locations of the laundry room and powder room, putting the powder room closer to your master bedroom -- the better to enable both his/her powder rooms for the master bedroom as needed. Flipping the locations of the laundry room and the powder room would also move the smells of the powder room farther away from the door to the breakfast/eating area. You could also make that powder room a 3'-4' wide "L" shape, with the longer side against the master bedroom wall and a pedestal sink in the corner angle of the "L" and the toilet in the short part of the "L", enabling you to have more room in your laundry room by keeping you from having an inaccessible base cabinet corner in the laundry room. On the left side of the house for the children's bedrooms, do straighten that left exterior wall of the house (rather than having those unnecessary angles at the front and back corner. Then, rather than three small bedrooms, build two larger bedrooms with a bath-and-a-half and the closets for the bedrooms between them. More sound/privacy issues addressed. (Depending upon the gender of your next child, you could make one of the children's bedrooms larger than the other. As the eldest child becomes a teen, the bonus room above the garage could become an extra children's bedroom.) The bath-and-a-half would be three small connected rooms: a single shared bathtub w/shower in the center room accessible from each side via a powder room, each of which would be accessible from one of the children's bedrooms. Then add a larger closet for each of the children's bedrooms between that bathroom (bath-and-a-half) interior wall and the children's hall wall. (House rules: everyone rinses out the shared tub/shower after each use and no child leaves anything in the tub room other than their towel drying on their assigned towel rack on the back of their own powder room door and/or exterior wall and no one ever leaves the doors to the tub room locked from inside unless they're actually in the tub room.)...See MoreRelated Professionals
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