I strongly urge that you do not buy Proline. I recently purchased a Proline insert for my custom hood. I had the hood built around the specs for the Proline insert. I researched liners and was intrigued by videos put out by Proline. I actually called the company to get more information on a liner. After speaking with a Proline rep they convinced me that this would be a good liner. I was concerned about the low price, but the rep assured me that was a promotional price, and they wanted to get reviews on the product. My review: TERRIBLE, MISTAKE, CHEATED. Model: PLFL CL 3416D. The description of this liner is that it is quiet. FALSE. Stand next to a jet engine during takeoff...that is how loud it is. If you intend to have a conversation in the same room, be prepared to yell at each other and even then you might not be heard. This liner is unusable if you intend to be in the same room. It is so loud you can hear it outside the house. The boast "runs at a maximum noise level of 4-5 sones, or the volume of a quiet conversation, meaning that it is extremely quiet" right on their website - it's an absolute lie. When I contacted Proline and asked for help with a solution to the problem their attitude was "too bad, you bought it, it's your problem". They said I installed it incorrectly. It was installed by my professional, licensed general contractor. The home inspector actually failed the final inspection in part because of the Proline liner. The inspector said air was blowing back down into the cooking area. I found mounting holes in the housing for the fans that wa blowing air back down the liner. I had to cover them with duct tape. I remodeled my kitchen and bought a custom hood. The hood was built around the dimensions for this liner. Now i am stuck with it. IT IS ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. Buy a Venta Hood or Z-Line...don't buy a Proline. Junk and no support. Beyond disappointing. My plan now is to gut this piece of junk, purchase a remote blower and figure out how to install it into the attic since I am stuck with this junk. Seriously, do not buy this liner and don't do business with Proline...they make false claims on their website, they do not stand by their products and their customer support is no help at all." UPDATE: Proline has now changed their website on the sones rating. They duped me, maybe I have saved some other unfortunate soul from falling for their false advertising.

I am currently designing my new kitchen. Going to the cabinet maker tomorrow. I'm hoping he will solve my measurement problem I AM putting in a corner wall oven and microwave. I just love this design although it is a wall eater. OK, my problem. I have a 27" oven (with it being 30 inches at the door. ) The mic measures 29". I am hoping that a 30" cabinet will do the trick. I still need to know how much wall space on each wall is going to be needed. It is about impossible to search and find an answer. This thread mentions 41" for a 30" corner cabinet, another site listed 45 and yet another was 50 something. Yikes. Update: I went to the cabinet guy today and he told me I needed 48" on each wall (from the corner) for a 30" cabinet. So come on people, what is the real answer to this question?

I wouldn't do it for a couple of reasons. Most importantly, it's going to be inconvenient/bothersome to always have to shove the curtains out of the way and close them back up every time you go in the pantry. Why would curtains be more inconvenient than a door? Because a curtain doesn't open/close as easily as a door. You have to shove it all the way open & closed. It will inevitably not get opened all the way and you'll be sticking out your arm to keep it open as you are retreiving what you need. Then it won't get closed all the way, and that defeats the purpose of having it there in the first place. Secondly, your pantry is in the same room as your washer/dryer. I wouldn't really want my canned goods and boxed items in there with all that heat/condensation. I'd want my food closed off with a solid door, no vents. It just seems to me that over time, the stuff in your pantry will get, well, soggy, for want of a better word. I might be wrong about all that, and you might love it. But personally, I can see that I would hate it. One more item, I'd put a separate light in the pantry area. With a door, you can have it set up so the light comes on automatically when the door is open and off when it's shut. Even with the curtain though, that extra light will eliminate the shadows that might occur if you don't open it up completely. As for the offgassing issue, I've never heard of that. What kind of smelly food are we talking about? I do keep potatoes in my pantry but haven't ever had a problem with smells.

Well sure, nobody can predict the future. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try! Our first home was intended to be short term. It was in an area with questionable schools, but we didn't have kids yet. Our plan was to be there 5-10 years and move before we had a kid in kindergarten. We were there seven years and moved when our eldest was four. Our second/current home was intended to last us "until the kids were in college" but we lacked the foresight to know we'd LOSE OUR EVER-LOVIN' MINDS and decide to have two more kids. And we realized when our dog developed a disability that it's extremely unfriendly to the mobility-impaired. (Plus side: she weighed 100 lbs so we got a LOT of exercise the last year of her life. :/) So we're moving forward and applying what we've learned over the years towards our best guess is about what will work for us. What more can you do? Important to note: I've come to love this plan (which isn't very bright, not yet knowing if the BRs will fit upstairs yet, but what can you do?) The only reason I wanted a first floor master was for eventual mobility issues (3/4 of our parents have health problems which make stairs difficult), not because I want my bedroom on the main floor now. The major drawback to the rough sketch we started with http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/4345095/floorplan-feedback-very-early-stage is a lack of playroom space on the main level which means, IME, all the toys will end up in the living room. A main level master would make an excellent playroom/craft room. It's close enough to the action that it would actually get used, plus there's a door. At this point the biggest drawback I see is the possibility that both we and an elderly parent might need to avoid stairs in which case either a small guest room on the main or planning for a future elevator might be a good idea. (Could whoever has the crystal ball please pass it my way?)