help please!?! renovating deformed seedlings
Megan L
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planning fall kbg renovation - help
Comments (17)If you want primarily a KBG yard, you'll need to sprout the seed already there or they will invade when you do the KBG planting in the fall. If you don't want any of it, water it up. And, then don't water. Most places would kill seedlings this time of year without extra irrigation (though mother nature can surprise). Next choice is then to decide if you want to till your lawn to prepare it. Some do, some don't. Pros and cons either way. If it was me and I had fill dirt added I'd probably till it the first of August. Then you get to the chem/organic debate. I differ with some above. I don't think it takes three years to have a starter yard ready with organics. Again, just my own personal preference would be to put down a heavy layer of compost and till it in. Level up the yard again. Then, just before seeding (Aug 15 sounds about right in your area, but check that out, all gardening is local) add 40 lbs of alfalfa pellets. It has chemicals in it that stimulate plant growth. About October I'd follow that up with another 40 lbs per 1000 sq ft of soybean meal. Its higher in Nitrogen than some organic fertilizers. And, again just me, I'd then add 1lb of nitrogen from urea after your first hard freeze. Next spring start an organic fertilizing program of your choice. The soil will continue to show improvement under an organic program for three years when it hits it max potential (all other things being equal). But, imho, you don't have to wait for it to get to its full potential to start a yard using organics. And, imho, the approach above, while not as good as it will get later, will be better than using chem fertilizers from the get-go. Of course, you know how opinions are, everbody has one. ;)...See MoreHelp on Impatiens seedlings!
Comments (9)Started with bean, Thank you so much for the encouragement! I was really hoping someone would share some information who's grown them before:) so the info you provided helps so much! I will definately try to water before the tray becomes desert like! Also maybe I will direct the fan away from the impatiens allowing the fan to blow only around my other plants. I been seemingly getting different messages as far as fertilizing? Mine have never been fertlized but is theyr'e growth usually this small? I sown them on March 1st. That would be so wonderful if they really just grown out of this. Do you fertilize with something like miracle grow or fish emulsion? I would hate to burn them after they are already leaved weird. But maybe by not fertilizing them I am helping them struggle longer? If you can provide anymore information I would love to learn even more! At least for tonight I am not going to try anything on them and will try not to worry :) I can worry later if they start to fall over dead! ha ha Hopefully that won't happen! Also' I had them under two fixtures with 4- tubes Cool White fluorescents Maybe I was stressing them by being to warm and also dried that they were struggling. There leaves pointed down look as if they are saying " My solar leaves have to much light!" then again maybe not. Either way I think putting the lights a little farther from the plants and giving them a little less time under the lights would be a good thing! And less time between waterings! I will keep you posted, in the mean time thanks so much for all your help!...See MoreDeformed/Curling leaves. Pics. (Unfinished Manure)
Comments (13)After hitting "Preview", I realized this post is LONG! Before you guys read enough to judge my intelligence and stop, I would like to thank all those that offered advice on this issue. Even if I don't quite show it, please don't think I don't value the experience I see here. In researching 2-4D, I found that it had a halflife of 10 days. I picked up the manure on Jan 31. Some of it was aged, some, not so much. Although the age is irrelevant as the manure may have become exposed to the herbicide after being... well, abandoned by the horse. Either way, whatever the concentration, it should have been at half strength on Feb 10, quarter strength on Feb 20, 1/8 strength on Mar 2, and 1/16 on Mar 12. Plants were planted on March 6. In looking at the docs provided by Jean, my plants appear to be much worse than the worst case scenario provided by the studies they did. However, with that said, it may not be 2-4D either, but something else that is more persistent. Or, there is the possibility that my neighbor sprayed something that I'm not aware of, possibly in his front yard (these are on the end of the bed closest to the front of the house...). Still, I would think that if this were drift, it would have affected more than just these four plants and the difference between plants four and 5 wouldn't be so evident. Either way, if it was the manure, and I believe we all agree that it is, I may still be OK. I don't care about these plants. There is nothing I can do about them anyway. Even if I were to pull them, I would have to put something else in their place and unless I dig out that whole end of the yard, I'd be putting new plants in the same position as the ones I'd be pulling. Besides, I'm in Texas. It's too late to be setting out. I've never put anything out this late and had it produce anything. The plants are going to have to die, grow out of it, or sit there and pout in a permanent prepubescent state. I had plants that had this issue last year on the other end of the same bed. They grew out of it just fine and ended up producing as well as anything else in my garden (it was not a good year). In the mean time, I'll keep soaking these plants to see if I can dilute down whatever is in the soil to levels were they are not longer an issue. If the plants die, the plants die. I have about 21 more. Like I said, these are experimentals anyway. Finally, I agree that this looks exactly like herbicide damage, and if you guys have not heard of anything other than herbicide that could cause this problem from horse manure, then we'll agree that this is herbicide damage. The main thing I was worried about was my compost pile. I used half the manure I retrieved that day on the spots these plants are now mixed the other half into my compost pile. The compost is about a year's worth and is finally finished. I used all I could this year and thought some manure and leaves now and coffee grounds through the year might keep it young and vibrant to be used for next year. While I'm sure it will be safe when next year's plants hit it in Feb-March of next year, I'll be sure to add some more materials to dilute any herbicide residuals that may persist. I was very worried that I was going to lose my compost pile (how sad is that?) The plants took 3 months to grow. I work on my compost piles year round!...See MoreOwlnsr's 2016 TTTF Renovation
Comments (86)Almost a year later... how am I doing? Not too bad! Coming off a month or so of upper 90s and humidity. These pictures were taken today. The TTTF is loving the summer sun almost as much as the lillies. Might me time to sharpen the mower blades... That's my lawn making my neighbors fence look bad heh. Home sweet home. Now that I am looking at it, that little tree near the second front door is looking a little sickly. if you recall, this is the spot that gave me so much trouble last fall. The floods (plural!), the grubs and the fungus.... but it's all good now. I did have to hit it with Heritage and Propicanazole earlier this summer to take out some wild fungus. I feared it was Pythium, but my fear are misplaced. (Note: There is actually a really bad spot in the middle here, but you can't see it in the photo. My wife can't even see it in person so maybe it doesn't exist and I'm just going crazy...)...See Moreedweather USDA 9a, HZ 9, Sunset 28
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