Best Paul Barden Roses
I know, this is all regional and dependent on local climate, but having grown many Barden Roses I am always interested to know which of his roses perform best for people on the forum. I also remember Paul chiming in to name some of his roses which he thought were the best (maybe phrased somewhat differently). I searched the forum but couldn't find it. From memory I think it included:
Mel's Heritage
Won Fang Yon
Jeri Jennings
Unconditional Love (not sure if he included it but would)
I know it also included some of his once blooming roses (which I have not grown).
Maybe Paul could jump in here and let us know his latest thoughts.
When I saw the list I decided to add Won Fang Yon this Spring and it just shared its first flower:
And I also put myself on the wait list for Mel's Heritage.
I currently grow nine Barden Roses and would include: Unconditional Love, Jeri Jennings, Treasure Trail, & Pam's Choice in my list of favorites. I will be watching Won Fang Yon because it certainly is looking like a good candidate to add to this list.
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Is RVR the only nursery that sells Paul Barden roses?
Comments (29)I appreciated the post and explanation. It seems it would be very difficult to run a business like that, and we must remember that only these smaller ones, generally, grow and sell the more unusual roses we so crave. They seem to be family operations, and trying to juggle all of it would be really hard. RVR I didn't count the number offered, but it seems huge. Imagine trying to guess how many to propagate of which each season and the enormous amount of work in the field and possibly greenhouse, let alone the sales end of it! No complaints about RVR, and it would take a serious annoyance before I'd make a fuss publicly. But I don't think it is wrong to discuss it as long as it is just stating the facts and not intended to turn other customers whose experiences may be different away. They had what I wanted. No one else did except one I found out later in my other post going here about RVR. I have 2 Hettie and 2 Awakening I got from bands, Barden roses. They don't do well in my zone without a lot of extra fussing in the winter. BUT they seem resistant to blackspot and almost everything except Jap beetles, shiny leaves, no spraying, maybe kelp. I so wanted Marianne and Jeri but will pass now....See Morebest Paul Barden rose for hot/dry climate?
Comments (7)Joyce Barden purchased maybe 8 years ago? Or whenever it came out. I've started cuttings that grew into 8 ft roses after I got that. It's about a foot tall, had one bloom, won't grow. Next to it are three roses that were rooted cuttings, so it's not my soil or my care. I forgot about it until this thread - it's hidden by some coreopsis now. It's coming out in the next few months. Too bad because I wanted to like it but trying to grow it all those years has been a waste. It seems like a six month old cutting. Don't remember where I got it, may have been Roses Unlimited but it is the only rose that I've had that kind of trouble with from anywhere....See MorePaul Barden's list of black spot resistant roses
Comments (10)Emme-dc, you've posed a lot of questions, but let me see if I can briefly touch on them. First of all, Paul at one time (and may still) grew upwards of 2000 different roses. His knowledge of those roses in HIS climate is probably as comprehensive as it gets. That said, he does live in a place VERY conducive to blackspot pressure. He does list some of the roses he bred, but the list is overwhelmingly the work of other breeders, and most still in commerce. There is no true "comprehensive list" that could possibly cover all different growing conditions and climates that exist over the USA; it's a big place. It would take someone in every climate zone (hot humid summer/hot dry summer/long wet spring/cold winter/warm winter/no winter!), growing several thousand varieties of roses, under the same conditions (no spray/spray, irrigated/rainfall only, chemical fertilizer vs organics...) to ever be able to say which roses are truly black spot/mildew/rust resistant and to what degree. That's why so much about disease resistance is anecdotal, and VERY area specific. That's where HelpMeFind.com comes in. In case you don't know of it, I'll put the link below. You just type in the the varietal name of your rose, and the page for that rose (hopefully) has all the info you need, including hardiness, size, disease resistance, and the family it belongs to. As for finding other roses in that family, you can also search HMF by "class", and if you become a supporting (paying) member, you can search multiple options and criteria. If you want a dark red, disease resistant, short climbing China rose...well, there you go, all the possibilities are yours for the choosing. HelpMeFInd and this forum are two of your best friends. John Here is a link that might be useful: HelpMeFind Advanced Rose Search...See MorePaul Barden Roses
Comments (20)Not yet, here, Paul. The color, as it is, is astounding here. I might have to get another and plant in a different spot to get the purple. I plan on the Diablo Hawk being a bit away from DR on that same retaining wall. It will be interesting to see that color here too. That retaining wall is very visible but does not have the best soil. OTOH, I have not lost any to gophers there. My husband bought a bag of Milorganite because he heard on NPR it might repel gophers. I might sprinkle it down in my Southeast corner where 3/6 gopher attacks have occurred. I have hope but the Gopher Hawk has been my best bet so far. Possibly my soil could be better fertilized to enhance the Dakota Redwing purple too....See MoreRelated Professionals
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I have Paul Barden's Golden Buddha here in W Central FL. It has never had ANY black spot, powdery mildew, other diseases or pests, except for thrips in a very minor way. I bought it 2 years ago, I think, from Rogue Valley Roses. It blooms well, stays short, which is amazing when you see the size of the blooms. It has outperformed every other rose in terms of general health, disease resistance, number of blooms. It loves the heat! In my garden's micro-climate and this region, we have very high pressure for disease to happen. Even if I spray ( which is not very often), the other roses, which include Earth-Kind varieties, and antiques ( Noisettes, Chinas and Teas, Polyanthas) get black spot. I think some of the black spotting occurs as a means for the plant to attain dormancy in my area, which seldom if ever, freezes. For example, my Prosperity repeatedly loses almost every leaf in January by black spotting, and by March all new leaves are present, and it keeps its leaves until the next January. So I am amazed at Golden Buddah's ability to resist almost everything. The leaves die of old age on that plant! The only drawback with Golden Buddah is that the flowers fade from apricot/pink/orange to a very light pinkish white. This plant is in partial shade and gets morning sun.
But the flowers hold well for a few days before that happens. Also great fragrance. I only wish Paul had other roses like Golden Buddha, in terms of disease resistance in other colors. I got Out of Yesteryear, a parent of Golden Buddha hoping to get OP healthy babies. I have 1 six week old seedling now that hasn't bloomed yet.
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Treasure Trail is a favorite of mine, very similar to Austin's Christopher Marlow in bloom colour and form. But Treasure Trail is the superior rose by far. Fairly small and shrubby, healthy, good bloomer, mossy buds and holds its colour very well. An excellent cultivar!
Cheers, Rick
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9 years agoSigh - looking at those pictures of Treasure Trail makes me doubly regret my email from Rogue Valley today that they won't be able to send TT this year after all. I do love Barden roses, and so far I've been tremendously impressed with Golden Buddha and Mel's Heritage just in their first years. They seem to have overwintered just fine and are putting up very nice growth. I could only find photos of a few of my Barden roses, but they're all keepers.
Dolly's Forever Rose is a vivid splash of color and rock-solid hardy for me.
Incantation is a lovely mix of bright colors and a good bloomer.
And Pam's Choice is a hauntingly beautiful "greyge" oddball color, like Nimbus, that's impossible to capture in photos like this.
Thanks, Paul, for breeding such wonderful roses!Cynthia
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