Which Behr colors is match to BM Manchester Tan and SW softer tan?

9 years ago

My husband likes to use Behr paints. Does anyone know which Behr colors match BM Manchester Tan and SW softer tan? I know you can do the color match but sometimes that is off. Thanks!

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Lori A. Sawaya

9 years ago

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So.... I am posting swatches but only because I know you guys are smart enough to know that it's a completely worthless endeavor to try to evaluate paint colors on any kind of illuminated device, like a monitor. Since they rely on the very small RGB color space to render colors, they literally are not able to render color like we see it in real life.

The swatches are for reference only - everybody knows you have to get in real life chips.

Spanish Sand has Delta E difference of 1.4 from Manchester Tan - which means it's a relatively small difference, but you're going to see a difference when comparing.

HC-81 MANCHESTER TAN
Benjamin Moore Classic Colors

OR-W7U SPANISH SAND
Behr Color Collection

Lentil has a Delta E difference of 1.2 from Softer Tan - again, means you'll be able to tell the difference between the two colors.

SW 6141 SOFTER TAN
Sherwin Williams Color

N270-2U LENTIL
Behr Color Collection

Those are the closest colors from Behr. Everything else in the Behr collection is a ways off with Delta E differences of 2 or more - which is a lot and not in the ballpark of being a decent match and therefore not really worth mentioning.

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happy2b…gw
9 years ago
My husband is a BEHR paint fan too. I have have had Hime Depot mix BM colors successfully. You may want to try.
seww1
9 years ago
I've had really good luck with HD color matching.

Sue
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I was just going to add I'm glad your DH went and bought the actual BM Manchester Tan. I too have learned the hard way not to attempt to match BM paint colors with other brands. It's not that other brands don't have good paint, its the way BM colors are made. You can probably match just about any other paint brand color with a BM paint, but it really is not a good idea to take a BM paint color and match to a different brand. My BM Elmira White match with a SW paint turned out with ugly pink undertones which I didn't catch until everything had been painted and then it couldn't be undone. I've had to live with it for years thinking it was just not the right paint color only to get the actual BM paint and find that no, it was the SW match. The real BM color is beautiful and I will now be repainting with it unless I choose another color. It's frustrating because most painters work with SW paint because it is easy to find. But I love BM and will just have to pay up for it.
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Hope all goes well with baby. When is h/she due? In answer to your question, what I meant is these colors are less "light reflective" than the off-whites more popular today. If you kitchen has a lot of windows, then any of the colors you mentioned would be OK. Realist Beige has an LRV of 59 (on a scale of 0-100; 100 being most reflective of light, ie. brighter to the eye); Manchester Tan has an LRV of 64; and Kilim Beige has an LRV of 57. Colors to consider are SW Natural Choice LRV 74; SW Egret White LRV 70; and SW Creamy LRV 81. All need to be compared to your cabinet color to ensure the right tone is achieved. You can order samples of the colors in 12x12 sheets for around $6.00 each from samplize.com. I use them all the time, because in the long run it is cheaper and no bottles of paint to dispose of and no purchase of foam boards, brushes and making the samples up. Plus, you get a real true sample of the color. Might try at least say 2-3 of your favorites if you can. Our SW store is taking call ins for chips for curb pick up. You could get all those chips and then decide what few to get the larger samples of so you can contrast and compare. Best of luck with the baby! I can't imagine being pregnant right now and I hope everything goes really well.
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Annie Deighnaugh
9 years ago
Behr Antique White is the closest to BM Manchester Tan.

Behr Marble Tile or Brown Buzz are the closest to SW Softer Tan
mary44
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9 years ago
Annie Did you use a site to find these matches? If so what is the name of the site? Thanks
inthetrees
9 years ago
Annie, yes, please share if you have a good site for that. I used the Colorcharts website for years, but it vanished. TIA.
Annie Deighnaugh
9 years ago
Encycolorpedia
inthetrees
9 years ago
Thank you.
Faron79
9 years ago
Holy Moly!!
The scanners I use at work give what "IT" thinks are good Delta #'s when I'm scanning swatches. I don't like using any formula's that are above 0.50!!!
Even then, I've usually gotta tweak some!
Also, I always back off some from what the scan says, especially on the darker & "strongest" colorants. It's much easier to "add" colorants, than to fight against "too much"!!

Faron
Michael
9 years ago
Mary, since you have known colors, color matching (scanning) isn't required. Just ask for colors by brand and code number and that's what you'll get. This is 2015.
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Lori A. Sawaya
9 years ago
Faron doesn't like using any formula above 0.50, so relative to Faron's standards, the differences of 1.4 and 1.2 are a lot, they don't really qualify as a match.

Relative to general color matching standards this is what Delta E differences mean. And I agree with Faron's ideal of a standard that it's pretty easy for the average person to see difference between colors than this general Delta E chart implies. The "trained eye" business - maybe not so much.

Delta E value Meaning

0- 1 A normally invisible difference

1 - 2 Very small difference, only obvious to a trained eye

2 - 3.5 Medium difference, also obvious to an untrained eye

3.5 - 5 An obvious difference

> 6 A very obvious difference
Faron79
9 years ago
Normally I agree with BSF, but...

In nearly 15 yrs doing this, I've learned to "almost" ignore the database of "Matches" that are bought with Tinting-Software. Yes...there's TONS of Fandeck-colors available (IF you buy them...).

There's THREE (well, FIVE, counting the C2-dedicated programs) different Tinting Software programs we use....Datacolor, MatchRite, & CPS-Color. All these "Color-matches" are are just stored-scans of many fandecks, put into a searchable "Library" in the Tinting-Software, and that's it!

There's no way to know if it's a good match or not, until the paint is literally tinted. AT LEAST half the time, I still have to tweak it...sometimes a LOT. SO....FOR ME, it's faster just to scan it, & using my experience, back off slightly from the scan-results for certain colorants, & tint away!

I've seen MORE THAN A FEW library-matches tinted, checked, and.....WTH?!?!??!?!

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Michael
9 years ago
Faron,

I've never returned a paint because it didn't match. I guess the local guys are just that good.:)

Which Behr colors is match to BM Manchester Tan and SW softer tan?

Lori A. Sawaya

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